Via Dispatches from the Culture Wars in which Ed Brayton responds to some of the scientific claims, I found this post.
Now I’m not particularly interested in the specific scientific claim, and whether it makes the virgin birth more “possible” somehow. What interests me here is the tendency to try to find natural explanations for miracle claims. DaveScot says:
I have a problem with these people in that they arbitrarily limit what science can potentially explain. The so called supernatural remains supernatural only as long as there’s no metric by which to measure it. Once a metric is discovered the supernatural becomes the natural.
Paul quotes someone on the virgin birth of Christ saying that it defies everything
science has revealed in regard to mammalian reproduction. This is utter dreck.
My response, however, is disbelief. First, explaining that some part of the reproductive process might be compatible with the human reproductive process seems to me to accomplish precisely nothing. Is it DaveScot’s intention to claim that the virgin birth is a purely natural event? But second how is it that he expects to come up with a metric to measure the supernatural?
Bluntly, this illustrates even more why much of what is claimed for intelligent design (ID) is simply horrifying theology. First, the virgin birth in which I express belief each Sunday in the apostle’s creed is not a natural event. I don’t care how easy or hard it might be made to appear, it’s not natural. The key point of having it in the creed in the first place is that it is an ultimate example of God stepping into history. It’s different from those natural occurences, such as gravity or my own birth that occur due to natural law, or what I would better express as the consistent will of God.
What DaveScot appears to be proposing here is that one eliminate the supernatural through learning to measure and presumably explain it. But that goes quite contrary to the primary intelligent design claim of either irreducible complexity or specified complexity, which requires something other than a natural process to explain. Now I must ask which ID theorists want. Do they want to stop looking for a natural explanation, or would they prefer to explain everything naturally. If the latter, in what way are they not more anti-God than their opponents. (Personally I don’t think DaveScot’s claims here would hold general acceptance amongst ID proponents, but I could be wrong.)
On my second point, however, I affirm God the creator in the same creed with the virgin birth, by which I do not mean a God of either disappears or becomes natural as we find a way to measure him.
I have always had little sympathy for the tendency to try to explain miracles. Either one believes God can intervene or one doesn’t. If one does believe God can intervene, no natural explanation is necessary. There could, of course, be alleged miracles which are merely fortuitous natural events. But that is not the claim of believers. The claim of believers is that God did, in fact, intervene in the case of the miracle. For the virgin birth, the bigger claim than the physical event is that Jesus the human being was/became God incarnate and lived on earth as a human being. No amount of explanation of the human birth processes can explain that.
My personal belief is that while God created a universe that will successfully run without intervention, God does interven to communicate. But I need no physical explanations of the possibility of such intervention. If I had such, that would simply become another natural part of the universe.
Again, I believe I’m confronted with the mysteriously shrinking god of ID. It just doesn’t make it theologically.
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