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  • Thinking About Hell

    Via the Christian Blog Carnival I found this article on hell with some discussion of various views held by Christians.

  • New in the Moderate Christian Blogroll

    I’ve just added Kouya Chronicle to the aggregator and blogroll. Kouya Chronicle is written by Eddie and Sue Arthur, who have some interesting involvement in Bible translation. I welcome them to the moderate Christian blogroll.

  • Moderate Christian Blog Roundup #2

    OK, this is getting regular, which I know is contrary to my personality, but here comes another roundup of the http://www.moderatechristian.com”>Moderate Christian Blog Aggregator. I’m seeing a lot of good posts on the blogs covered by the aggregator and would like to help see them get some more attention, so here goes. Note that the order in which I list these is random except that I round up my own other blogs last. I do not include any blogs with no posts since my last roundup.

    Bruce Alderman writes about the stories of the birth of Jesus in Matthew and Luke. These are excellent entries. I’d really love to see more of this type of writing applying scholarship to scripture in a way that the general public can understand. The entries are Christmas According to Matthew and Christmas According to Luke.

    Kievas Fargo reminds us of what Jesus could have done as opposed to what he actually did in O Holy Night. Aren’t you glad Jesus chose the way he did?

    Allan tells us that we can receive the greatest Christmas gift right now in The Greatest Gift of All is Jesus.

    Kara at Everyday Liturgy writes about the importance of traditions in developing our Christian life in Traditions.

    Peter Kirk writes about two women teachers/preachers and wonders how complementarians deal with the good fruit of their labors. I wonder the same thing. Good approach!

    Tom Sims tells us that suddenly it’s Christmas and says:

    In fact, the preparation that God requires is not that which we provide at all. The naked truth is that God has prepared our hearts for Christmas. It is always now that we may welcome the Son of God into our hearts afresh. It is always in our darkness that the light is welcome. And it is always our own unawareness and self-reliance that humbugizes us. Suddenly it is Christmas and we are ready. Glory to God!

    I just had to quote that!

    Gavin at Hit the Back Button to Move Forward moves us toward New Year’s Day with a devotional that challenges us to become revolutionaries.

    At monastic mumblings, the topic is the days of Christmas. Entries thus far are: 1st Day of Christmas (Christmas blessing), 2nd Day of Christmas, 3rd Day of Christmas – Feast of St. John the Apostle, and 4th Day of Christmas – Slaughter of the Innocents.

    From my wife’s devotional list, Jody’s Devotionals, the entry is one I wrote for her, talking about the down side of becoming a baby in first century Palestine and suggest that we need to empty ourselves.

    Donny Prater says it’s time for New Year’s resolutions and suggests that a good resolution would be to Just Say No!.

    It’s Donny Pauling’s 33rd birthday.

    The Pen of the Wayfarer tells about a life surrendered to Jesus in My Life or His Life and challenges us to surrender.

    As for my own blogs, on the Jevlir Caravansary I have posted a new short story about Daniel, written in the tradition of apocryphal Daniel stories. On the Participatory Bible Study Blog I wrote about avoiding major errors in Bible study in Bible Study, Community, and Agendas. I contributed Getting Things in Focus to Pacesetters Bible School News Blog, challenging us to find the right focus and bring things into line with that focus in our personal and our church lives.

  • On Bible Translation from realmealministries.org

    From realmealministries.org comes a brief discussion of Bible translations and how to make your choice of one to use. There is some good material here, though obviously in such a short presentation it cannot be tremendously detailed.

    Since this is also a favored topic of my own (see Bible Version Selection Tool), I’d like to call attention to it.

  • Christian Carnival CLIV Posted

    The Christian Carnival CLIV has been posted at From the Anchor Hold. It’s another nice selection and a good job by the host. I didn’t get a submission in because I was out of town and away from a good internet connection, but I hope to have time to call attention to some particular posts.

    Happy New Year to All!

  • A Late Merry Christmas

    I missed wishing readers of this blog a Merry Christmas because I was out of town and left fairly quickly. At the last minute my wife and I were able to go to Ft. Worth, TX to see our daughter, son-in-law, and two granddaughters. A good time was had by all of us!

    I will be getting some posts going here yet today, so beware!

  • Bible Study, Community, and Agendas

    I have written previously about community and Biblical inspiration and more recently about fear that pushes people away from studying the Bible for themselves. So how about a note on some of the dangers of Bible study?

    My attention was called to this topic by this post on Thinking Christian, in which the basis for anti-semitism in the gospels and Paul’s writings is discussed and to some extent despatched. There were two passages in that post that set me to thinking just a bit. The first is:

    None of these verses suggest that the whole Jewish nation is responsible for Jesus’ death and none of them promote the idea that Jews should be persecuted. Dowling is clutching at straws here and reading into the text what he clearly wants to see. The texts are so clear, in fact, one wonders whether he has actually studied them with a sceptical view! [emphasis in original]

    And this is the second:

    Although Dowling’s argument is completely flawed, it is true to say that the Bible has been used by those who wish to promote persecution of the Jews. But this is not the fault of the Bible. It is the result of distorted readings of the text. Unfortunately, ‘the history of the church is about as long as the history of anti-Semitism—if not in the overt acts of Christians, certainly in their guilty silence.’ (Wilson 1984) So the Christian Church has certainly been guilty of perpetuating anti-Semitism by commission or omission. But the actions of the Church must not be equated with the teachings of Scripture.

    Now don’t come to any conclusions about Steve Parker’s material without reading it completely. But what interests me here is that he says that it is very clear, even emphatically clear that these texts do not support putting the blame for the death of Jesus on the Jewish people as a whole, and do not support persecution on that basis, and yet, as he acknowledges in the second quote, these texts and others have been used in precisely that way.

    So what happened on the way from the first to the second? Generally, some very bad Biblical interpretation, and more specifically application has taken place. The reason for this is that the Bible has been given to us not in a neat, systematic fashion designed to give you direct answers for your moment by moment decisions. Instead, it is presented in people’s experience of God in a range of situations over an extended period of time.

    We are always in danger of misapplying scripture simply because we have our own agendas, and we tend to read what we think should be there. I’m always fascinated in my own reading to look at my previous marginal notes and underlining. Different aspects of a passage strike me at different times. There’s no problem with this. We’re human and we can’t keep our attention on everything at every moment. But our human nature also gets us to focus on how the Bible might apply to someone else, or on those aspects that support what we want to do. We can even believe that we are being quite scriptural because we have a Bible verse to quote for every occasion. We might even have reduced it to a simple reference.

    In the particular scriptures that caught my attention here, there was probably a very simple process of misapplication. Some Christian in the early, but not too early years of the church was angry at some Jews, perhaps at the Jews, possibly because he simply couldn’t understand why they wouldn’t accept what, to him, was obviously the truth. He wants to force them to believe, and it’s only a short step from forcing people to believe to using force and killing them if they continue to refuse. He looks for justification. “Aha!” he says, “we have it right here in Matthew 27:25. They admit to being guilty of killing Jesus–killing God!

    The text doesn’t actually have to say that. It just has to provide one little wedge of scripture for the action that our hypothetical Christian already wants to take. Very unfortunately, though the specific thought processes are hypothetical, the result is not, and many Christians used the verse in question in precisely that way.

    We can easily wonder why there isn’t some kind of footnote or parenthetical remark that God would provide saying, “Don’t take this to mean that all Jews are guilty of the death of Jesus.” That simply wasn’t the issue at the time. I know that there are scholars who believe that this passage was penned precisely with the purpose of placing the blame for the death of Jesus on the Jews rather than the Romans. But even if that was the case, the historical context was a situation in which Christians were distinguishing themselves from Judaism more and more, yet it was still closer to a family fight with many Christians also considering themselves Jews, and thus requiring great care in application in any other situation. It’s quite possible that we should say that Jesus did provide a footnote, in Matthew 5:43-48–“Love your enemies!” Even if this verse did indicate a national guilt, and even if it did allow us to regard the Jewish people as our enemies, we’d still be commanded to love, and love would surely exclude persecution.

    I have written about each of these elements before, but I think this brings them into focus:

    • Read broadly, considering all aspects of context. The counterpoint may not be right there.
    • Read in community, with accountability. There’s a place for standing for your principles no matter what, but there’s also a place for being accountable to others.
    • Drop your agenda, and let God provide you with his agenda.
    • Always look for the things that correct you rather than for the things that correct others.
    • Listen to the Holy Spirit in the present.

    As a final note, I believe that God gives us the scriptures as part of the experience of the community because he wants us to experience him in the present as a community. We might want a book of facts and detailed instructions. God wants to provide us with a guide for coming into relationship to him and experiencing him in our daily lives. The greatest antidote to hatred in our lives, I believe, is the regular experience of God’s love. When you constantly experience God’s loving presence, you will find it harder to believe that God is justifying hatred.

  • Christian Carnival CLIII Posted

    Christian Carnival CLIII has been posted at Lux Venit. It looks good, but I may not have time to look at much this week. Thanks to Leslie for a good job!

  • Can one Like both George Bailey and Howard Roark?

    Joe Carter has a wonderful post today, The Fountainhead of Bedford Falls: Comparing George Bailey and Howard Roark, discussing elements of the style and meaning of It’s a Wonderful Life and The Fountainhead. While I might quibble about some points in the evaluation, it’s a well written and thoughtful piece, and you should take a look at it. In fact, what I say here will not make much sense unless you read his piece first. Just be aware that I’m taking off at about a 90 degree angle rather than building directly on Carter’s comments.

    But having said that, I want to ask you to think about some things that aren’t in either of these works of literature. You see, I have enjoyed both, while being fully aware of the contrasting views involved. Carter notes:

    The fans of The Fountainhead are therefore not likely to appreciate Wonderful Life. Indeed, the messages are so antithetical that only a schizophrenic personality could truly appreciate both George Bailey and Howard Roark. For even though they are surprisingly similar characters, when the spell of sentimentalism has faded the contrasts become clear.

    Perhaps I’m just such a schizophrenic. But I think not. Rather, I think that both these pictures give us stark contrasts that are not the day to day personalities we have to deal with. That’s not a bad thing. One of the enduring qualities of the book of Revelation (shameless plug for my study guide), beyond and timelines and specific future predictions one extracts from it, is that it clears up the good guys and the bad guys. We know which is which, we know who to hate and who to love, and we can cheer as the deserving ones get thrown into the lake. A similar fascination comes from watching Star Wars or The Lord of the Rings. We know when to cheer and when not to. Evil comes along so dark and obvious that we can be certain all its allies are culpable and certainly not completely deceived.

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  • Joe Meert in Conversation with John Baumgardner

    The Florida Citizens for Science blog has an interesting account of a conversation between Joe Meert (Florida Citizens for Science vice-chair) and John Baumgardner, geophysicist and young earth creationist. It’s worth reading. Joe asks the right questions.

    You can find it here.