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  • Great Post on Gifting

    In preparing the Christian Carnival CLVIII, which I hosted this week on my Participatory Bible Study Blog, I found a real gem of a post on gifting. Dana, of Dana’s Avenue, wrote about Gifting, and the experience of discovering excitement in the gift of accounting.

    This really strikes a cord with me, because in my own classes on spiritual gifts I tell people that the church is filled with people who want exciting gifts like prophecy, miracles, or leadership, but very few want things like wisdom, hospitality, or helping. The church, on the other hand, needs those gifts in reverse order. We need lots and lots of helpers!

  • Christian Carnival CLVIII

    Welcome to the January 24, 2007 edition of christian carnival, #CLVIII. I’m your cyber-librarian for the week, and I’d like to welcome you to our cyber-library, temporarily located right here! In case you’re wondering about the numbers in parentheses you can find out more here. I used some of them rather loosely!

    Biblical Studies (220)

    Codex: Resources for Biblical Studies Blogspot presents And God said, “Let there be Limricks” (Genesis as a Limerick)–The chapters of Genesis summarized as an extended limerick.

    Chasing the Wind presents Rededicating Lives Read. Study. Mourn. Celebrate. Repent. Promise. God has a plan for you, and He wrote it down. If you read your bible, you’ll find out what it is. A study of Nehemiah chapter 8-10.

    Lingamish presents C.S. Lewis on Bible translation, part 3: Silk stockings or blue jeans. Description: Lingamish raps up a series on C.S. Lewis imagining men in tights and Bibles in blue jeans.

    Jeremy Pierce presents Exodus 22:1-4 in the NRSV posted at Parableman. He asks, “Why does the NRSV reorder the text in Exodus 22:1-4?”

    The Journey presents Jeffrey Archer writes his own gospel.
    Jeffrey Archer is taking aim at the traditional understanding of Judas Iscariot. He has co-written a book which paints Judas as someone who wanted Jesus to overthrow the politcal power of the Romans. He believes that Judas was someone who misunderstood what Jesus was trying to achieve on earth.

    Christian Living (248)

    Dana presents Gifting posted at Dana’s Avenue. She says that she and her husband are new missionaries with Wycliffe and preparing to leave for Tanzania this summer.

    Patricia presents Self-Fulfilling Prophecy posted at A Better You Blog. God tells us in Romans how to be transformed by renewing our mind. How are your thoughts steering you?

    Barbara presents Getting our house in order at Tidbits and Treasures. We often pay more attention to our literal house than that of our spiritual house. Our body, our spiritual house, is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and we should never become complacent in our tending to it.

    This week at Light Along the Journey John is asking us Who are you listening to?

    All Things Bloggable presents Heroes on Earth, saints in Heaven, an exploration of our desire as Christians to become heroes in the real world, and how it is overshadowed by a false sense of heroics in the virtual world.

    Theology (230)

    Veracity-The Way presents Evangelical?, asking what does it mean when someone says they are an Evangelical? Not much, from what the Barna Group tells us.

    Romans 15:4 Project presents Fear and Doubt. I wonder if this is what Peter felt as he started walking on the water toward our King (Matthew 14:25-33 ). What if we never followed through on our dreams because of fear and doubt?

    Laurie Bluedorn presents Could I make my own heart soft, would I need the Lord to do it for me? posted at Trivium Pursuit.

    Elias presents Why I believe that Christ is God! posted at Ramblings of an Australian teacher.

    Mark Olson presents St. Maximus on the Consequences of Biological Hypostasis posted at Pseudo-Polymath. Cutting my egg teeth in theology or in which I consider alternatives to the duality of body and mind/soul in Christian notions of being following John Zizioulas and St. Maximus the Confessor.

    Philosophy (100)

    Sun and Shield presents Islamic Anti-science Philosophy?, reacting to an article by Steven Weinberg, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist and author, who is, himself, criticizing the atheist attacks of Richard Dawkins on Christianity. Weinberg, an atheist himself, says that, to defend science, Dawkins should be attacking Islam, and goes on to explain that al-Ghazali, an important Muslim philosopher of about 1,000 years ago, undercut science in Muslims by claiming that there aren’t really laws of nature. I had never heard of this (it seems to be at least partially true) so I examined this claim. Weinberg also pokes at Christians, because, he says, they really don’t believe what they say they do. (He explains why he thinks so. Again, it is at least partially true.)

    Social Theology (261)

    Tantalizing if True presents The case against politeness, telling us why niceness isn’t a good test for truth

    Prayer (240)

    Attention Span presents The God Who Offends, thanking God after a football game seems to rub some the wrong way. At Attention Span, rev-ed muses about The God Who Offends.

    Youth (268)

    Life in Student Ministry presents World of Warcraft FAQs for Christians: Introduction. This is the first post in a two-week series that is currently running at Life in Student Ministry. What is World of Warcraft and how can we understand it in a Christian context?

    Psychology (150)

    Jake Danger presents Belief in God Declared a ‘Mental Illness’ by the American Psychological Association posted at Churchianity Today (copyrighted material).

    Religious Freedom (320)

    50 Days After presents Golden Statue in Madya Pradesh, about a law in an Indian state requiring all school children to pray to a Hindu god.

    Crossroads presents Has the Persecution Begun?. Many have predicted there will be persecution of Christians in the United States. Has the first stage begun already with the recent publication of three books?

    Eschatology (236)

    Nancy Geiger presents What I Learned Teaching Sunday School: The Promised Land – Heaven posted at What I Learned Teaching Sunday School.

    Frank Lordi presents Is Catholicism the Harlot (Rider of the Beast) in Revelation 17? posted at Revelations.

    Evangelism and Mission (266)

    Brian Russell at Real Meal ministries offers Living an Evangelistic/Missional Lifestyle. This essay explores practical ways to influence the world for the mission of God through Jesus Christ.

    Education (370)

    Home Where They Belong presents Mentor? Now knowing the importance of the role of mentor and remembering those that have helped to mentor me, am I ready to be mentor myself?

    Homiletics (251)

    Rev Bill presents The Art Of Preparing A Sermon. Rev Bill shares his conviction about the importance of sermon preparation, and shares some posts he has found on the mechanics of preparing a sermon.

    Music (780)

    Fish and Cans presents Importance of Song. Do you ever wonder about the songs that we sing? Do you ever wonder if they mean or teach anything?

    Chris Alexion at Welcome to the Fallout presents Oh! Gravity, a review of California rock group Switchfoot’s latest album.

    Ecology (574)

    Christians are called to be good stewards of God’s creation. Green up your closet with plant-based fabrics and get the latest on evangelicals and climate change over at The Evangelical Ecologist.

    An Announcement

    Weekend Fisher at Heart, Mind, Soul, and Strength posts Christian Reconciliation Carnival: Call for Submissions, an announcement for new monthly Christian Reconciliation Carnival. This month’s topic: setting the record straight for strawman arguments made against your group. Submissions by midnight on 1/30/2007.

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  • The Problem with WWJD

    One of the primary objections that conservative Christians have to the work of historical Jesus scholars is that they often have a tendency to create Jesus in their own image, or at least in an image congenial to them. This is said particularly of the scholars of the third quest, and of the Jesus Seminar in particular. It’s not entirely a false charge, either. With the use of historical criteria one can quite easily tilt the results in just about any direction depending on what weight one gives to each historical criterion, not to mention the weight given to the various sources.

    Now this isn’t an essay on the historical Jesus quest, as interesting as that subject is. But what struck me recently was how easy it is for any of us to create a Jesus in our own image, whom we can piously follow. Conservatives can get in on the game, simply by placing more weight one one text than another. Do you need a more violent Jesus? Try the cleansing of the temple. More gentle? “Love your enemies.” If you’re dispensationalist, at least of the older variety, you can simply disregard whole swaths of the teaching of Jesus because they apply to a different dispensation.

    In the person of his followers, Jesus is both for and against the war in Iraq, both for and against capital punishment, eager to help every immigrant or determined to move them out as quickly as possible, interested in more or less government regulation (I’m really not sure where this comes from, but there are those who invoke “Christian principles” on the matter), and so forth.

    Recently I read an excellent blog post on the patriarchal movement, (Women Who Drive and the Men Who Let Them, which led me to this patriarchal article). There is much that one could comment on in an article such as this, but there were a couple of sentences that inspired this post:

    But at the same time, our culture is at war with this masculinity. This means that the men who are equipped to maintain peace in their homes will be men at war beyond the front door. A man who has what it takes to provide peace, stability and security in his home will be just the kind of man who is embattled outside. Our world system is hostile to the kind of masculinity which is capable of guiding and protecting the godly home. Centuries ago, in the great battle over the Trinity, Athanasius was told at one time that the whole world was against him. Then let it be known, he said, that Athanasius is contra mundum against the whole world. In the same way, the biblical man should know that his scriptural hardness, the necessary protective fence for his family, will always provoke a hostile response whenever he is out in the world.

    Jesus the controlling masculine he-man! This shows how far in one direction some people will adjust the image of Jesus in order to make him fit the way they want to view the world. Elsewhere in this patriarchal movement we have advocacy of harsh corporal punishment and an ungodly level of control, all practiced in the name of Jesus. (Hey, the guy ought to at least apologize to Athanasius!)

    And then there is the ultimate sign of the blessings of Jesus–opposition. Because Jesus was crucified for who he was, and because he said that his followers would be persectued, many see opposition, ridicule, and persecution as a sign of how right they are. But you can awaken opposition and persecution in two different ways: 1) Your life might be a rebuke to others because you are living so well, but much more likely, 2) You could just be a person who is obnoxious! Many, many Christians are rejoicing in opposition (persecution is too strong a word for what goes on in the U.S.) as a badge of their righteousness when it is really an indication of how little like Jesus they are.

    The problem with asking “What would Jesus do?” is that you have to be willing to look openly at the things that challenge your own way of living and of doing things. It has to be a sincere question that looks for a challenging answer, otherwise it’s just another form of excuse.

  • Doctrinal Statements and Bible Use

    A friend e-mailed me about a post which caught my attention. It seems that a blogger wanted to use the feed of the ESV Bible from the official web site, but found that the terms of service required him to accept a doctrinal statement first (relevant links are in his entry).

    Personally, I think that the blogger, Kevin Wilson, was pretty nice about the whole thing. He’s correct, of course, that they have the right to make any terms of service they wish. But the fact that they do have a doctrinal statement in their terms of service does lead me to ask something about the priority of doctrine over scripture–or the reverse.

    Personally, I’m convinced that getting people to read the Bible for themselves is a good thing. For one thing, there’s nothing like exposure to actual Bible passages in context to convince one that inerrancy isn’t a very viable approach. (Yes, I know that intelligent, educated people agree with me. They’ll say that I’m wrong, and I say that they’re wrong, which is as it should be.) Further, however, I do believe that the Holy Spirit works through the study of scripture in reaching individual minds. So I’m not even content with Wilson’s acceptance that one might not want the service used on a site that mocked the Bible.

    What better benefit could a site have than to have multiple links back to their own work from sites that opposed them? Who do they want to have reading their Bible? Perhaps this is the true confirmation of what I keep hearing from some defenders of the ESV–it was not really designed to be understood by unchurched people, so the doctrinal statement makes sure that readers will know the language into which the ESV is translated.

    But I suspect it’s more likely simply that this is an attack of random exclusivism. The site provides a translation for people who agree with them. Surely people who don’t believe in inerrancy and the several other doctrines they list will not even be able to comprehend the Bible anyhow, so what good would it be to them?

    Personally, I’m going to keep advocating easily read translations that are made as widely available as possible. It just seems like the Christ-like thing to do.

    This leads me to ask something about the priority of doctrine over scripture.

  • A New Baptist Covenant

    Former presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton are both tied to the formation of a new umbrella group of Baptist denominations in an article in the Washington Post. I should point out what could easily be missed–Clinton described himself as a cheerleader and refused to be interviewed. Carter is apparently more involved. This is not the formation of a new denomination, but more of an alliance of denominations that want to see a different definition of “Baptist” than is presented by the Southern Baptist convention.

    Though I’m Methodist and have no plans to become Baptist, I certainly would welcome such an organization simply because the voice of the large number of members represented by the individual denominations is often not heard. In addition, if successful, the organization will combine the voice of predominantly African-American denominations with that of predominantly white ones.

    One of the issues that is bound to catch the eye of the press at least, is the fact that two former Democratic presidents are involved. It certainly caught the attention of the Washington Post writer. These churches should be careful not to get tagged with a political label any more than they must. While having former Democratic presidents involved in any way increases the political visibility, I would certainly not suggest they reject such involvement. I believe in separation of church and state, not church and statesman, and certainly not church and ex-Presidents.

  • Ben Witherington on the Pentecostal Movement

    Ben Witherington has a very good piece on cessationism and the Pentecostal movement. He acknowledge both the good and the not so good. It’s worth taking a look.

  • A Welcome Alliance

    MSNBC.com has a good story on scientists and evangelical Christians working together on the environment. This is a very welcome alliance.

    This isn’t a matter of anyone compromising on their principles, but rather an alliance for action on issues on which both sides can agree.

  • Losing a Battle, Losing a War

    In all the debates about winning or losing the war in Iraq, what I find extremely frustrating is that the discussion so often occurs without adequate context. Today Joe Carter writes about How We Lost the War (And Will Lose the Next One Too). I agree with many of his comments about American public opinion, but I think he also displays the dangerous tendency that Americans have to simply not think about the context of other countries, from the leadership on down.

    Carter presents his rather excellent argument which is quite logical in a sterile sort of way. I even agree with the conclusion of his argument. Pulling out at this point cannot be painted as some sort of victory. It’s a loss. But in arguments the devil is often in the definitions, and there we have the real problem with this argument. Points #1 and #2:

    (1) The object in war is to impose your will on your enemy.
    (2) The will of our enemy is that we leave Iraq as soon as possible.

    The enemy has a good idea what his will is, and what he wills is something that can potentially be accomplished. The American people, on the other hand, aided by mixed messages from their government, really never had any idea what their will was for Iraq. One could reverse the logic, and instead use our will as the standard, and our failure to impose that will means defeat. But the problem would be to discover just what our will was.

    Here are some options:

    1. Removal of Saddam Hussein from power
    2. Elimination of weapons of mass destruction from Iraq
    3. Removal of a potential base for terrorists
    4. Creation of a new, stable government in Iraq
    5. Creation of a democratic government in Iraq
    6. Creation of a government friendly to the United States in Iraq
    7. Creation of a society that would take a stand against terrorism

    Well, #1 was accomplished and should have been expected. From a tactical point of view, capture and execution of Saddam Hussein was an added benefit. (What the process did to overall strategy is worth consideration.) It turns out there weren’t any weapons of mass destruction to get rid of, so #2 is accomplished, in a way. There’s no evidence that Iraq was an above average base for terrorism. In fact, Afghanistan and Pakistan probably remain better bases, and terrorists don’t settle in for the long haul in one location, at least surviving terrorists don’t. The remaining items are either contradictory or simply impossible in some other way. Donald Stoker, quoted by Carter claiming that combatting an insurgency normally takes 8-11 years, provides an interesting base line. I have no reason to dispute his estimate.

    But one aspect of context when one deals with the Middle East is time or perhaps timelessness. If you spend 8-11 years imposing peace, and you succeed, you still have no assurance–or better not even a probability–that the imposed peace will last once you withdraw. Feuds can go underground only to pop back up as soon as the opportunity presents itself. Notice that the chief image for U. S. involvement from the Arab side of this is the crusades, and they were fought hundreds of years ago. Iraqis can still think in terms of restoring the glory of Babylon, which takes it into millenia. Americans simply can’t fathom that kind of thinking as a rule.

    But there is a substantial problem in Iraq. Assuming that we want a democratic government, which seems to be part of the strategy, there is simply no reason for anyone to assume we’re also going to get a government that is friendly. We are much more likely to get one that is more similar to Iran than anything else, and such a government is not going to be pluralistic in nature, but inevitably will tilt toward one center of power or another. Based on population, that would be a Shi’ite dominated government. At a minimum, such a government would no longer stand as a counter-balance to Iran in the region, and could very well become an Iranian ally.

    If your will in a war is self-contradictory, then there is simply no formula for victory. I don’t blame the American people for losing this war. There was never any potential strategy for victory. The one thing that could have made any of it worth anything would have been the finding and elimination of weapons of mass destruction. The removal of Saddam Hussein is, without context, a good thing to do, but we’re not going to be any happier with a Shi’ite dominated government, which right now is the most likely accomplishment of this war. We’ll still have attrocities in Iraq; they’ll just be against a different group of people.

    Now I’d advocate staying on the simple grounds that we’re responsible for the current version of the mess. But I don’t think that we can make it better for the long term. The Iraqi people are going to have to decide for themselves whether they are going to return to all of the ancient feuds or whether they are going to learn to work together. History indicates that without some substantial force, the disparate elements that were brought together to create Iraq are not likely to form a terribly stable and peaceful union.

    Many people seem to believe that my opposition to the Iraq war is an oppostion to war, that I don’t want us to go after terrorists or find and capture Osama bin Laden. On the contrary, my opposition to the war in Iraq is precisely because it detracts from that very goal. It expends huge quantities of human and material resources for at best marginal benefits. It is as though a commander in a war attacked a fortress that would become isolated in a properly conducted war, and expended huge amounts of ammunition and numerous troops to reduce that fortress when it could be simply isolated and allowed to become irrelevant. If you further imagine a fortress that is simply not going to fall or will take up the same enormous resources to occupy, you have the strategic impact of Iraq on the war on terror. It doesn’t get us anywhere, and it expends troops that are more useful elsewhere.

    But based on the polls and on the truly silly notions held by many people, I also have to agree with Joe Carter’s conclusion:

    What is even more distressing than the fact that we have lost this war is that we are likely to lose the next one too. We have no interest in fighting in engagements that last longer than a season of 24. Given this reality our best option is simply to refuse to fight. Rather than engage in ‘pre-emptive wars’? we should take a page out of France’s strategic playbook and make a habit of ‘preemptive surrender.’?

    I’m afraid that no matter how much I believe the war in Iraq was a mistake from pretty much any angle, there will be numerous conflicts that will be good ideas, and based on the polls and general reasoning, I’m afraid the American people won’t back those up. I am wondering whether the completion of the war in Afghanistan, making sure that the government can stand, that the country can remain free, and that terrorist operations there can be largely eliminated, would receive the continued support of the American people were the news media focused on that country instead of Iraq. And there we do have the possibility of accomplishing good things, and we already have.

    Unfortunately, I think Joe Carter is right that we simply don’t have the staying power for such a conflict. He and I disagree on the Iraq war itself, but I think we would agree on the broader issue. The American people will only tolerate a conflict if the losses are minimal and don’t distress us. The potential strategic gains or losses don’t seem to matter. At the moment, I don’t think we even have the will to pay for and support the type of security we need to protect our homeland, much less to support operations worldwide for decades to come. The 8 to 11 year estimate is probably good, based on history. Understanding the middle east would suggest that the estimate is low for the type of conflict we’re in, and we need to be ready to stay the course for more than 8-11 years, and that each such war is merely a battle in the larger war on terrorism.

  • Only the President Can Stretch (Break) the Law

    Attorney General Gonzales is apparently concerned that judges may make decisions about security issues that they are not qualified to understand. According to MSNBC:

    Attorney General Alberto Gonzales says federal judges are unqualified to make rulings affecting national security policy, ramping up his criticism of how they handle terrorism cases.

    Of course, the administration that brought us the Iraq war and FEMA run by a much-underqualified lawyer is qualified to tell us that no judge is qualified to hold them accountable. Ultimately this leads to the attitude that now pervades the Bush administration that even the voters cannot hold them accountable. In their view nobody is qualified to hold them accountable, because they just know.

    In remarks prepared for delivery Wednesday, Gonzales says judges generally should defer to the will of the president and Congress when deciding national security cases. He also raps jurists who “apply an activist philosophy that stretches the law to suit policy preferences.”

    In other words, only the administration is qualified to stretch the law. Those judges should just keep out of it.

    “We want to determine whether he understands the inherent limits that make an unelected judiciary inferior to Congress or the president in making policy judgments,” Gonzales says in the prepared speech. “That, for example, a judge will never be in the best position to know what is in the national security interests of our country.”

    Following on some other really stupid remarks, this displays an astounding level of arrogance.

  • Christian Carnival CLVII

    Working faster than a speeding bullet and showing more power than a locomotive, Amanda has posted the Christian Carnival CLVII. No, she didn’t use a superman theme; that was suggested to me when I found the carnival already completed early this morning, and I’m an early riser!

    So congratulations on a good first time hosting to Amanda, and the theme, while simple, is excellent and scriptural! If I’ve got my schedule right, I’m the next host, so I’ll have to start now thinking of a “more excellent” theme. 🙂