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  • Lectionary Category

    I have added a category “Lectionary” to all the (relevant) blogs to which I contribute. That includes my big three (see the sidebar) along with a couple of group blogs, one merely shared with my wife.

    Some years ago before I had a blog I tried to keep up with creating a new page each week on the lectionary texts for a couple of weeks ahead. I didn’t keep up with it for very long. Since then, I have continued to use the lectionary texts in my devotional reading, and occasionally I write something about them. I notice that this has been increasing.

    So what I have done is modified my lectionary page on Energion.com to reflect an RSS feed of all these lectionary entries. I left the index to the older pages there in case someone wants to look at any of the old passages.

    There will be an explanation on the page soon of the type of entry to expect on each of the blogs in question.

    This doesn’t really reflect a change in blogging. It’s just a new tag and a new aggregator to present the material in a bit more organized of a fashion.

  • Suggest BOTH of them Resign

    Senator [tag]Larry Craig[/tag] says he won’t resign even though his attempt to withdraw his guilty plea failed. It seems that some Republicans are afraid that if they urge Senator Craig to resign, it will appear that they are discriminating–what about Senator [tag]David Vitter[/tag]?

    The Idaho Republican’s decision gives his GOP colleagues two unpleasant choices. They can resume pressuring him to leave, and risk being seen as disloyal politicians who go harder on alleged homosexual misdeeds than on heterosexual wrongdoings. (Source: MSNBC.com)

    Well, how about urging both senators to resign? Both engaged in behavior that they have publicly condemned and at least claim to be illegal. It seems to me that the party of family values might take a stand somewhere short of activities that are felonies.

    The other senators shouldn’t try to expel either one. Certainly one can be convicted of a misdemeanor and still serve in office. The real “term limiters” are the voters of each man’s state. But their colleagues can make it clear that their behavior and their hypocrisy are unacceptable.

  • Free Burma Day

    I will be participating in Free Burma day tomorrow. There will be a banner reading Free Burma, underlined for the full day and I will not be posting.

    You can find more information on this action here.

  • On Creationisms – Quotes Link

    I want to promote this link from the comments to a full post. There are a number of valuable quotes in this post showing the different views of creation that are held by various Christians. The binary creation vs evolution controversy oversimplifies the issues considerably.

    One should always be careful with quotes. First, I have encountered a number that appear to be PR quotes, one key example being those regarding whether God is the designer or not. Second, all quotes should be considered in context. But Martin LaBar has done a good job of giving some of the variations in these positions.

  • C. F. D. Moule

    Peter Kirk reports the passing of C. F. D. Moule. I have enjoyed using his Idiom Book of New Testament Greek. Peter provides some details and related links. He will be missed by the Biblical Studies community.

  • Blogrolling Blogrolls Temporarily Disabled

    I have temporarily disabled my blogrolling.com based blogrolls due to very slow loading. I will look into what can be done. Some blogrolls can probably be restored using another method.

    For the moment, however, the site was unusable with those blogrolls enabled.

  • MBWR #131 and My Highlights

    The Methodist Blogs Weekly Roundup has been posted. Thanks to Allan Bevere for his hard work.

    I’m doing today what I wish I always had time to do, which is look at a bunch of the posts and pick out some of my own highlights. These don’t coincide with the “Best of the Methodist Blogosphere” that Allan hands out. Usually I latch onto them because they talk about something I’ve been interested in recently. Usually I read them and think about doing a links post. Today I’m going to turn intentions into actions.

    Well, thanks to Allan for giving me a list that wasn’t intimidatingly long. I always find wonderful posts in his list, but I rarely manage to give them due credit. I hope some of my readers will enjoy these posts.

  • Thoughts on Lists of Spiritual Gifts

    In one of the sermons I heard this morning (I attended services at two different churches), the scripture reading was from Ephesians 4:1-12. When Ephesians 4:11 was read, I remembered a discussion I had some time back about whether pastors and teachers here was intended to refer to one group of people. The individual with whom I discussed this found it fairly important. He thought that it would be better that authoritative church teaching be done by the pastor. Others could work under him, but the that would be the authority source.

    The gifts he gave were that some would be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers — Ephesians 4:11 (NRSV)

    I can see how this might work together with a complementarian view of gender roles, reserving authoritative teaching to the ordained, who would all be male. I have never heard that specific argument made by any actual complentarians, so I don’t know that it is used. There are quite a number of commetators, however, who maintain that either these two groups are the same, or that they are much more closely related than are the other groups in the list.

    In looking at it, I would note that Daniel Wallace discusses the matter on page 284 of Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics, and maintains that the Greek does not require that these two groups be identical. Nonetheless he also makes the point that they are more closely connected to each other than to the rest of the list. In general I think he makes a good point.

    But does Ephesians 4:11 mean that pastor and teacher are the same office in either case? Whether or not we place a great deal of weight on this, it’s an interesting question.

    I think the answer lies in the lists of gifts that Paul gives. He speaks of spiritual gifts in three different places, here in Ephesians 4:11, in 1 Corinthians 12 twice, and in Romans 12:6-8. The list is not identical in any two of these places. They are not identical even between 1 Corinthians 12:8-11 and then in verses 28-30. The two lists give a different perspective. I would suggest that there is an important point in these differences.

    And this leads me to the reason I wanted to write a blog entry on this. It goes back to something I say repeatedly about Bible study, and most recently about interpreting parables. The key to understanding is finding the right question, and in this case we have to look at the questions Paul is answering in these passages. If you look at the context, not a single one of these passages was written to answer the question “What are the gifts of the Spirit?” Rather, the questions all relate to unity. In 1 Corinthians the primary issue is spiritual pride, and the gifts are used as an example of how all of us, coming from varied backgrounds and with various gifts, are brought together by one Spirit to become the church. In Romans 12 the topic is becoming conformed to Christ rather than to the church, with the issue of unity again key. Similarly in Ephesians 4:1-16, though we tend to stop at verse 12.

    What would Paul’s answer be if he was asked just what were the gifts of God’s Spirit? I suspect he would decline to try for an exhaustive list. Rather, we need to look for the simple test. Is this gift useful (and hopefully used) to spread the gospel message and to build the kingdom? If the answer is “yes” it’s a good candidate to be called a spiritual gift. Otherwise, not so much!