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Tag: Christmas

  • On Christians Insulting Atheists

    A couple of months ago I got a forwarded e-mail which purported to tell about a court case in Florida. An atheist was said to be complaining about not having a holiday like various varieties of religious folks, and got the ACLU to take the issue to court. The judge explains that he does have a holiday already, April Fools Day, citing Psalm 14:1/Psalm 53:1. It was an obvious joke, though it was forwarded seriously. I read it and deleted it. It wasn’t even the first time I’d seen a variant of this story. I decided to look for a link for this post, and the obvious source was Snopes.com, which does, indeed, list the story and informs us it is fake, though they note that there certainly are plenty of people who have taken it seriously.

    I find it disturbing that people with the intelligence to turn on a computer might think this was real. What matters more, I think, is that people regard this as a good joke, and that some of those who regard it as real expressed the hope that we would get more judges like the one in this joke. We would be rightly be angry if such a joke were told about a racial minority or a disabled person, but it’s just fine to tell it about atheists.

    What got me thinking about this was all the “war on Christmas” junk that goes around this time of year. We have the constant effort to get religious displays on public property and then to prevent other displays, such as atheist or humanist ones, from getting shown as well. It’s not as if we don’t have hundreds of places to display our nativity scenes. I even put one on the header of my company’s web site, Energion Publications. I get to do that. It’s my company. I don’t have to give equal time.

    My downtown Pensacola church can put up any displays they want, and most of the town will have the opportunity to see them. My church doesn’t have to give other groups equal time. It’s a church. It gets to promote the views of its membership. But once we go onto public property, such as at city hall or at a school, things are somewhat different. There, the government is a sponsor.

    For example, in West Chest, PA, a display on public property excluded a Tree of Knowledge sponsored by the local free thought society. I mention this one in particular—there are dozens—because I know someone who is involved. My question would be just who is harmed by the display of this tree of knowledge. Why would someone be insulted that some other person disagreed, and was able to express their disagreement. It is not as though Christians don’t have plenty of opportunity to express their point of view.

    Elsewhere, Christians have tried to prevent Muslims from erecting a mosque, a place of worship. The argument has been made that Muslims should be regarded as a political movement, and thus not covered by freedom of religion. Often Christians have led in these actions. (Note that this point alone would be sufficient to mean that I would never vote for Cain or Gingrich under any circumstances.)

    The comments on posts and news stories about these issues are very revealing, however. I’m amazed at the insulting language used by Christian commenters. Now there are doubtless readers who are thinking, “But what about the insulting language used by atheist posters?” I know of atheists who are quite concerned with such insulting language, but I’m a Christian, and what concerns me here is Christian witness. Posting obscenities about atheists says very bad things about Christians who do it.

    My interest here is not in the legal aspects. I support separation of church and state, but I really want to address Christians and the way we think about these issues and the way we behave. The word “blasphemy,” in my opinion, has no place in political discourse. The government should know nothing of and have no concern with “blasphemy.” It’s a religious concept. One of the arguments Christians use is that by their very denial of God, atheists blaspheme. By writing against Christianity, they do so even more.

    But here’s what I think is truly blasphemous, and since I’m addressing Christians about what would be blasphemy in Christianity, I think the word “blasphemy” is entirely appropriate. When a Christian says “I am a Christian” and then uses obscenities about another human being, or insults that person, that is blasphemy. It is also taking the name of the Lord, Jesus, in vain. It’s not the use of four letter words that constitutes “in vain.” It’s the claim that you are a follower of Jesus, in scriptural terms part of the Body of Christ in the world, and then acting in a way that is diametrically opposed to what you claim.

    By insulting, I don’t mean disagreement, even when vigorously expressed. If you disagree with me, for example, and inform me of that disagreement, that’s not insult. But if you call me immoral for my view, or call me a fool, or lace your explanation with obscenities directed at me, then that’s insulting. Christians shouldn’t be doing that. Indeed, nobody should, but as a Christian, I’m addressing Christians.

    What should we do instead? In my view, there should be a line of Christians at any hearing that was about denying someone else their freedom of expression. We should be testifying in their favor. Just think of the difference in our witness if, instead of being insulted that others have views that differ from ours, we went out of our way to treat them as we would want to be treated.

    I think Jesus said something about that somewhere.

    Oh, yes.  “Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets” (Matthew 7:12 NLT).

     

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  • Merry Christmas!

    I’m not going to write a Christmas post here, but I wrote three of them on my Jevlir blog, where I write a bit of fiction.  They are:

    1. About Those Small Town Values
    2. The God-Talk Club and Merry Christmas
    3. You Will Have a Son

    Enjoy!

  • Linking the Birth of Our Nation with the Birth of Our Savior

    Chuck Baldwin maintains that the birth of our Savior and the birth of our nation are closely linked. I’m afraid I don’t get it, even allowing all his facts, some of which I would dispute. I just don’t see the parallel between the guns of the revolution and the Babe of Bethlehem emptying himself of divinity to come save us.

    What do you think?

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  • The Joy of Being Unscientific

    I write so much about science on this blog that it’s quite possible to get the idea that I think science is the major way of knowing, and certainly the most important one. But in my day to day life I deal mostly with things that are not precisely scientific. Science tells me how an aircraft flies, but it won’t tell me which relative I should visit making use of that wonderful technology. Now that’s not a weakness of science, and more than “useless for pounding nails” is a weakness of a saw. But it’s easy to confuse, especially in religion

    This was brought to my attention this weak by a footnote in the Foreword and Acknowledgements to Raymond E. Brown’s An Introduction to the New Testament. Brown is discussing his intentions with regard to what he will cover and mentions the difficulties inherent in the fact that the gospel writers reflect different pictures of Jesus as seen and passed on by his followers. He states his intent to look at the extant accounts rather than historical reconstructions for purposes of his introductory work. Then in a footnote he says:

    For those who believe in providence, this indirect and not totally consistent witness to Jesus would have been a vehicle chosen by God–something forgotten by those who spend their efforts “improving” on it by harmonizing the gospels. [page ix, note 4]

    You see, faith is not particularly scientific. I don’t mean there’s no evidence for elements of the faith. I don’t mean that we have to abandon all rationality for faith. But faith is not about structure. As a Christian, when I look at the Bible, this is blazingly obvious. The Bible doesn’t provide either systematic theology or scientific detail and accuracy.

    Then come the gospels. It seems to me that the person of Jesus is so central to Christians that I should want to know as much as I can about him. And then I look at the gospels and I find that I don’t get things that Jesus wrote, or even things that scribes recorded while he was living. Instead I only get to see him reflected in his followers. That doesn’t mean that I know nothing at all about him–it simply means that I don’t have what I would choose to have, if I had the choice.

    But then I realize that this is just one of many ways in which God seems to do things using methods I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t choose. In fact, though you’ve seen many arguments I’ve made in favor of the theory of evolution, I have to say it’s not the way I would have chosen to do things. Come to think of it, God’s response to human evil doesn’t entirely make sense to me.

    Here it is Christmas and we celebrate the way that God sent a baby to deal with the sin problem. Logic? Science? It apparently doesn’t work that way. I’d be counting the legions of angels and figuring out strategy.

    And if there’s information that people need to know, why couldn’t it be set out in the form of an encyclopedia, for example. There’d be nice annotated entries on homosexuality and eschatology, and there’d be footnotes telling us which commands are eternal and which are just temporary.

    But apparently that is not the plan. The plan seems to be about relationships much more than about rules, more about learning to live and make decisions than about having them made for us, and more about discovery than about knowing.

    Now there are scientific elements to theology and Biblical studies, in archeology, linguistics, paleography, and various historical studies. But this little footnote served to remind me that my faith is not mostly about those things–it’s about relationships. It’s not about how the aircraft flies. It’s about who I’m going to visit by making use of it.

    PS: In case you think I’ve blogged very little for Christmas and advent, check this Christmas story on my Jevlir Caravansary blog, this devotional from my wife on her devotional blog or my contribution to her devotional list God With Us.

  • The OTHER War on Christmas

    A couple of days ago my wife and I were discussing just how little we cared precisely how someone greeted us during the holidays. As usual, Jody made it clear that she would greet people however she wanted, which normally means “Merry Christmas” while at the same time mentioning appropriate occasions for the use of other greetings. Regarding the White House Christmas list, she told me, they obviously ought to use “Happy Holidays.” Between us, I’m sure we could offend a good number of people.

    But actually most of the people I know are not all that worked up about holiday greetings. The bulk of the population manages to go on living no matter how anyone greets them, and even if some folks don’t do it at all.

    But folks who lack good sense keep on talking about “the war on Christmas.” Obviously, those who don’t want manger scenes on public property or who don’t celebrate December 25th are anti-Christian, and probably anti-God as well.

    But wait . . . there’s another war on Christmas–the Christian war on Christmas. It’s a pagan holiday, we shouldn’t celebrate it, Christmas trees are idolatrous, etc.

    Just for a bit of flavor, check out this web site. They say, “Stunning as the following facts may appear, it is essential to bring them to your notice.” They go on to list the reasons why you shouldn’t be celebrating Christmas. Check it out! Step aside, Mr. Scrooge!

    And just in case someone misses my intended humor, let me assure you that I love Christmas. The Christmas tree is one of the best religious symbols around. It’s been borrowed so many times that nobody has any idea what it actually means. It can be interpreted in hundreds of different ways, and what’s more, it can carry a whole bunch of other symbols to which boring interpretations can be applied. Best of all, it’s pretty, and I like it. Pagan revelry rocks!

    Oh, and besides all that, the Christmas tree still manages to offend a few uptight folks who probably deserve offending. Who could ask for more than that? 🙂