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Category: Education

  • Myth of Galileo

    Joe Carter is debunking the Galileo myth. And a pretty reasonable debunking it is. I’ve read quite a few debunkings of the myth before, and such things are rather important, considering some versions of the story. I’m pretty sure someone in elementary school told me that Galileo was condemned for saying that the earth was round. That surely came from someone who misunderstood Columbus (who’s real issue was the circumference of the earth) and then confused him with Galileo. What stays in place through all these versions is that Galileo was discovering something new, and the church wasn’t anxious for him to do that.

    Now Carter’s debunking, while quite good, and while drawing some very appropriate lessons, reminded me of an incident in my freshman year of college. A sociology professor who professed communism challenged me in class when I quoted 66,000,000 people killed in the process of bringing communism to the Soviet Union. I forget who calculated the number of the details, but Solzhenitsyn cites a statistician who calculated that number in The Gulag Archipelago. My teacher, every mindful of defending good communists everywhere said, “Oh, that’s greatly exaggerated. More likely there were only 40,000,000.”

    The comparison here is not views of the cosmos versus killing people, but rather the idea that diminishing the damage tends to make people forget the essence of the claim. If one’s claim is exaggerated (or wrong), then even if a great wrong was done, people will start to ignore it. They remember that it was exaggerated. In the case of Galileo, I often see the result of debunking. “Oh,” says someone, “he was not treated as badly as the story indicates.” And they decide to give the Catholic hierarchy of the time a free pass.

    But when exaggeration is removed, Galileo’s lack of additional evidence is considered, and any amount of obnoxious behavior on his part is factored in, we still have a scientist who was told by the church to shut up. That’s not good. Now we need to keep in mind the times as well. Comparing the behavior of the church of the time with modern standards of academic freedom is an injustice to some extent as well.

    But as a Christian, I still have to ask if we shouldn’t be better than that. After all, we claim divine guidance. We claim great hope. I would not demand that reformation come instantly, or that the church be wonderfully far ahead of the world around it. I’d just ask that it be a little bit ahead, or more accurately a little bit better. (“Ahead” begs the question of whether we’re going the right way!) The same challenge faces the church today. Are we really doing anything but following cultural trends? In many cases, I think we are not.

    There is a further problem with views of Galileo, and that is the unfortunate idea that the Bible should be used to provide or to test scientific answers. I will repeat what I have said before–there is nothing in the Bible that cannot be adequately understood with the cosmology of the ancient near east. There is no advance of physical science provided by divine revelation. I would ask anyone who disagrees to point to such a thing in scripture. Testing cosmology by scripture is a colossal waste of time. We should no by now that theology is not the best approach to knowledge of the physical world.

    So that leaves me with two elements of the Galileo incident. First, there is a church (and state) that believes it can put someone on trial because they either believe what is false or are obnoxious. Second, that church is testing such ideas by a standard and using methods that are not capable of producing accurate results. Both of those things are terribly bad. They’re not friendly to science.

    Let’s not replace the myth of Galileo the pure and righteous punished by the church with a myth of a church behaving in a fully reasonable fashion. There was still an inquisition, the decision was still wrong, the place and the method was inappropriate to their purpose, and the decision made turned out, not surprisingly to be on the wrong side of history.

    Why does the myth persist? Simple. The victors write the history, and Galileo happened to be right, and the pope was wrong. He should have just sucked it up and let Galileo insult him. It would have provided a better legacy.

  • Florida Science Standards Petition

    The proposed new Florida standards give evolution its proper place in science education. The petition is posted here, and you can find further information on it on the Florida Citizens for Science blog.

    Whether you are in the state of Florida or not, please go and sign. We will give separate counts for the in-state and out of state signers when the petition is presented.

  • Paying People to See EXPELLED

    Given the advance publicity, and now reviews from some friends who have seen the movie, I have almost entirely negative expectations. That is not surprising, considering that I’ve sold out to the Darwinist ConspiracyTM, and no longer believe in God.* :-;

    However, it seems that the upright and theologically correct** folks who produced the movie, have even less faith in it than I do. They apparently feel the need to pay people to see it (HT: Austringer and Glen D. at AtBC.)

    They are especially interested in getting middle and high school students to see the movie, which demonstrates yet again how much more anxious they are to bring their message before the uninitiated than to bring it before people who are qualified to critique it.

    I eagerly await exaggerated claims of ticket sales based on this particular strategy. The ID folks have taken a step down from “truth is determined by popular vote” to “truth is determined by those who can pay for it.”


    *I eagerly await the first time this is quoted by some humor-challenged individual to prove I really, truly am an atheist.

    **Political correctness is a relative newcomer on the correctness scene. Theologians just didn’t have such a catchy name for it. For centuries in many places one could get burned at the stake for not being theologically correct, rather than just expelled from a university, for example. Both ideas are, of course, destructive of freedom. That’s why, of all the epithets rained upon me, I prefer “Henry the Heretic.” It’s good to be a heretic!

  • Florida Science Standards Debate Heats Up

    I can’t seem to keep up with everything that’s happening in the debate about science standards here in Florida, but Brandon Haught, our Florida Citizens for Science communication director (I’m a board member) is doing an excellent job on the FCfS Blog.

    In particular, I’d like to call attention to two blog posts there:

    Those not in favor of good science education, raise your hand. These folks have identified themselves in opposition to the science standards. There are those who will say they are not opposed to good science standards, just the ones on evolution. It is impossible to have good science standards without learning to understand evolution. Make no mistake. Those who oppose the explicit and prominent presence of evolution in the biology standards are not favoring good science education, and their motives are not scientific.

    Here’s why you need to get involved. This looks at how the opposition is getting organized on this point. We’ll meet many of the same old anti-science forces gathering for the fight here.

    I will continue to keep folks updated on the Florida debate, though mostly through linking to the excellent work Brandon is doing on the Florida Citizens for Science blog

  • Good Teaching or Mockery?

    This case should turn out to be interesting. As it is, it cries out for context. (See also this on MSNBC).

    A Christian high school student is complaining that his AP history teacher is mocking his faith. His mother became concerned when the teacher said that American was not founded on Christian values. Since I’d agree with the teacher on that one, I wonder a bit about the rest. Perhaps some of these statements were made simply to provoke discussion, and if that was the case, I would have no problem. If only Christianity was challenged, that would be another matter. If one religion was mocked throughout the class, that would also be a problem. I don’t like it when Christian teachers do this to atheists or other non-Christians, and I don’t like it when it is done to Christians.

    So my initial reaction is tentatively against the teacher. But we do need to hear the context of all this. I’m assuming the principal and school board will listen to the tapes and determine just what the teacher was doing. While the student should not be mocked, challenging discussion is good. I recall once in a Bible class challenging a student about his faith and doing so effectively enough that he eventually yelled, “You won’t believe no matter what I say!” So I pointed out that I was his Bible teacher and already did believe. He thanked me afterward for the challenge.

    I will be keeping my eye on this case for sure.

  • Inside Higher Ed on Dr. Richard Colling

    Inside Higher Ed has an article, Academic Freedom and Evolution which discusses the AAUP response, amongst others, to the situation at Olivet Nazarene University where Dr. Colling is no longer assigned to teach a general biology course he had taught for years, and his book Random Designer cannot be used as reading in any class. The article also notes the rather interesting lack of response from the Discovery Institute.

    Since I’m currently blogging my way through Dr. Colling’s excellent book, I thought readers would be interested. I will note that I do not object to privately funded, religious schools having theological requirements for their professors, provided everyone knows about those tests and can respond accordingly. In this case, it is not the theology of the denomination involved, nor a standing policy of the school, but rather a response to donor complaints that is driving the case of an already tenured professor who is simply teaching good science.

  • Barbara Forrest makes Statement on Firing of Chris Comer

    I blogged before about the firing of Chris Comer. PZ Myers now has a post that includes the full statement by Barbara Forrest about this. Comer was apparently fired for forwarding a memo announcing Barbara Forrest’s talk in Austin. It’s a good statement.

  • Florida Science Standards go from F to High B

    . . . and I think they’re headed for an A. The writing committee is to be commended for their hard work. The National Center for Science Education and Florida Citizens for Science have issued a press release giving an evaluation of the new standards by one of the experts who participated in giving the old ones an F.

    This is good news for Florida’s science education in many ways. There are those who are trying to make this all about evolution, and I won’t deny that I personally regard it as extremely important that evolution be included fully in the standards as an organizing principle of biology. It should be thoroughly understood by our students. But there is much more to these standards.

    It’s time to increase our expectations in science education. At the same time, we need to be prepared to support our educators as they carry these out.

    [Note: I am a board member of Florida Citizens for Science.]

  • Random Designer I

    A while back I blogged a bit about Richard Colling, an evangelical Christian, microbiologist and a supporter of the theory of evolution. The major item of controversy at the time was his book, Random Designer, which seeks to combine his Christian faith with his acceptance of evolution.

    I’m going to blog my way through his book, because I think he expresses some important points for Christians who are considering how to respond to the issues raised by evolution and other scientific discoveries on the one hand and their understanding of scripture on the other. Dr. Colling is exceptionally well qualified to comment on these issues.

    In this first post I just want to make some general remarks on his introduction. I share some experiences with Dr. Colling in encountering and dealing with the issue of evolution in a church environment. As I understand his theology, he comes from a Wesleyan background, and teaches at Olivet Nazarene University, thus Wesleyan theology provides some connection

    But to a large extent we come at this from completely different perspectives which makes this very interesting reading. He encountered creationism in a debate between a creationist and an evolutionist at the University of Kansas, and was shocked at the poor arguments presented by the creationist (p. 6). I was a convinced young earth creationist until I encountered material on evolution and started to compare the quality with the creationist literature I’d grown up on. There was simply no comparison.

    The following quote gives the flavor:

    This book, then, contains the ideas and perspectives of one broadly trained scientist who is not satisfied with religious platitudes or scientific dogma. I am just like you, attempting to fit the pieces together. The goal is straightforward–to develop a personal faith and cultivate a close connection with God, while at the same time fully acknowledging the scientific laws and processes that plainly govern our existence. [emphasis in original]

    I think this provides a valuable perspective for Christians. It is also hardly threatening. I will make a more complete evaluation as I continue reading, but thus far this looks like an excellent book to put into the hands of someone who is seriously asking questions about this issue.

    On pages 16-17, in discussing science and faith, Dr. Colling makes a strong case for teaching evolution in public schools saying that it is “an integral component of biology.” He also emphasizes that evolution and atheism are not necessarily connected. “The problem arises,” he says, “when the interpretation and meanings of evolution are extended too far.”

    At the conclusion of chapter 2, Dr. Colling has laid out the claim that evolution is not necessarily theistic or atheistic; those conclusions go beyond the actual science involved.

    When next I blog, I’ll be looking at chapter 2, in which he discusses thermodynamics in a way that is very accessible to lay people. For all those who think the 2nd law means that evolution is impossible, Dr. Colling would disagree–he says that the 2nd law is essential to evolution.

  • Of Science, Faith, and Feelings

    Practically everyone today is heavily dependent on the results on the work of scientists. We are quite content to trust the work of scientists when we climb aboard airplanes, drive our cars, or post blog entries. Of course, a great deal of technological building has been done on the basic discoveries of the scientists, but it’s the theories that scientists have developed that allow these things to work, and we express our trust in the reliability of the scientific method each time we depend on such wonders of modern technology.

    We continue this trust when we hear of theories relating to gravity, various particles, and specific vectors and mutations involved in disease. The results of modern science are so pervasive in our lives, and its theories so pervasive in our thinking that it would be hard to imagine thinking or working without them.

    But all of this trust starts to fall apart for many people over one scientific theory: evolution. It’s the scary word, the one place where the scientists just must be wrong, and many people simply grab hold of any option available rather than to think that the scientists, who have been repeatedly shown to be right on so many things, may also be right on this one. If a small group of people became convinced that the rules of aerodynamics were faulty, hired PR firms to support their view, wrote popular books on it, and demanded equal time in our high school classrooms, they would simply be objects of ridicule. When the topic is evolution, it’s another matter. Experimental data, historical observations, the fossil record, and genetics all combine to provide support for the key elements of the theory of evolution–common descent and variation + natural selection. Yet what would be plenty of evidence if applied to any other scientific theory instead becomes controversial.

    Now this controversy is not significant among scientists (though more on that later). Rather, it is widespread in the general public, very often debated by people who have almost no idea of the theories concerning which they are arguing. The debate is also characterized by high emotion. Physicists debating their observations on the tracks of particles that have been theorized may be dealing with data that is much more difficult to interpret, but nobody puts the kind of emotion into that debate that goes into the debate about evolution.

    Why is this? Well, we’re dealing with myth, and more importantly about a creation myth, our basic story about who we are. And I’m not going to back off of the word “myth” here either. Myths are essentially powerful stories that help us define ourselves.

    Let me illustrate. Part of my story is that on my father’s side I’m descended from Mennonites who emigrated from Germany to the Crimean region of the Ukraine, and then from there to the Dakotas and from there to the Canadian prairie states. It’s a fairly nice story of down-to-earth, hard working people escaping persecution and finding a place to live in the new world. But supposing I were told suddenly that this history was all a lie, and I was instead a descendant of communist revolutionaries in Russia, or perhaps Nazi sympathizers in Germany. The problem would be more than a matter of facts; it would be one of identity and purpose. I personally think I should remain who I am in spite of what my ancestors may have done, but I have a good deal of emotion invested in who I think I am. Nonetheless, in the end, the evidence should win out. Now I know of no reason to suspect my ancestry, but I use this by way of illustration.

    For many, this is precisely what results from the story of evolution. They are invested in one myth–the idea that God formed the original human being from dirt and personally breathed life into him, and that they are, because of this, extra-special compared to all other life forms. Yet along comes another story, and this one says that they are >98% similar in their genetic make-up to Chimpanzees. This story tells them that rather than being descended from an original ancestor who was personally formed by God directly from dirt, they have ancestors who swung from trees, and before that who walked on all four, and if one goes back far enough, wiggled about in the ooze.

    Who are they if this new story is true? Many of them conclude that they would be nothing much, and probably unconsciously decide that the facts–this new story–has got to go. Unfortunately, those pesky scientists keep saying that this new story is true, and being scientists, they seem to think that the right way to go is with the facts. As a result we get into a major cultural conflict–the conflict between these two stories. The scientists keep saying that the new story is true; the detractors keep saying that the story is terrible.

    After all, that is why we’re constantly presented with only the two options. The issue is not to find the truest story; it is to defend the existing story. Other people have different stories? Who cares? It’s our story that’s the issue! This is also why it so frequently seems adequate to creationists–those who object to the story proposed by the scientists–just to point to some flaw or another in the theory of evolution. All they require is some semblance of an excuse to deny the new story and cling to the one that they already have.

    And this is why evolution is so controversial in the United States. There is not that much scientific controversy about it. Oh, scientists regularly tweak things here and there, and they look for more and more explanations for the incredible amounts of new data that scientific activity constantly generates, but there isn’t really any controversy about the general explanation. Many other people simply don’t understand the controversy at all. I recall hearing the gasp in one class I taught when I put up an overhead transparency with a line illustrating the age of the earth according to geology, and the young earth view. The second line wasn’t a line, of course. It was a dot at the bottom of the page. The students had simply never realized the huge difference between the two views. They thought folks were arguing over two time lines that were relatively similar. Suddenly things like small percentage errors in various dating techniques didn’t seem nearly so helpful to the young earth crowd.

    But to those determined to maintain the old story, and who believe that the two stories are not compatible, it’s important to keep people from learning to truly understand evolution. Over the last few decades there was first an attempt to prevent the teaching of evolution outright, and when that had failed, creationists returned with the attempt to add creationism to the science curriculum. When that failed on first amendment grounds, they came up with intelligent design (ID).

    Now I must note how ID works in practice. To anyone with a scientific mindset, ID sounds extremely odd. Having gone to great lengths to discover an intelligent designer, suddenly the ID advocates show no interest at all in precisely who the designer is. Using the old illustration from Paley–a watch on the beach–someone with a scientific mindset would not be satisfied with simply determining that the watch must be designed. He or she would want to know who designed it, how, and why. This curious lack of desire to finish the job is one of the indicators that ID is not science.

    But in the great war of the origin stories, ID does very well. In stories, we’re used to things being cryptic. People around the country grasp this very quickly–the intelligent designer is God. What ID does is allow people to sneak in the old story without actually admitting that they are doing so. And this becomes extremely important in terms of education.

    What do we want to teach in science class? Well, it’s pretty simple when we talk about gravity, aerodynamics, physics, and so much of science. We want to teach what actually is the best approximation of the truth we can find. We determine that in textbook design by looking at the output of the working scientists. A new theory in science, like a new story in mythology, has to be tested and find its place. But there is a big difference. In science, there is a fixed standard by which one can test the new story, loosely called the scientific method. If your new theory or your new experimental results are no good (cold fusion comes to mind), then they will be rejected. If they are good, an old theory may be overturned, and a new one replace it (tectonic plates come to mind). Since they are working with replicable results, the general acceptance of the scientific community is the basis for current science.

    Who else do you want determining it? A general popular vote? Would you get aboard an airplane designed by the collected opinions of a thousand random people in your community? (I suppose one might, if one assumed the airplane would never leave the ground–a very real probability!) Does it really matter just what the uninformed think is the correct view? When we are trusting our lives to something, we want the opinion of experts. In the case of evolution, we are suddenly concerned with the opinions of people who don’t even know what it is.

    Democracy is not a method of determining the truth. It’s a method of governing. It has its flaws, but generally works. But the best decision the general public could make would be to require that the science taught in schools is the science determined by the vast majority of working scientists–the folks who actually do understand the theory.

    But that’s not what some people want to do in Florida. There’s James A. Smith, Sr. of the Florida Baptist Witness (HT: Florida Citizens for Science Blog, which also provides a good analysis). In the referenced article, he’s decided to try to take down the scientific story, and thus hopefully leave room for the religious one, which he thinks is incompatible (please remember I’m going to comment on that alleged incompatibility below). He’s even discussed this with someone on the Board of Education who appears prepared to abandon facts and try to make people feel good.

    Let’s look at some of the tactics in this article.

    First, we have the “closed mind” tactic. It goes like this: “The absence of contradictory data is unnecessary as far as committee member Jonathan Smith is concerned. Smith told the Lakeland Ledger the new standards ‘closed the door on any ambiguity’ concerning evolution. ‘There isn’t both sides. There is only one side as far as science is concerned.’ How open-minded.” And the owner’s manual of my car closes the door on the possibility that it will run on a mixture of gas, water, and sugar. How open-minded! The difficulty here is not that scientists do not want contrary evidence presented. Rather, the problem is that what is advocated as contrary evidence actually is not. Shall I be open-minded and put water and sugar in my tank anyhow?

    Second, we have the argument from numbers, even though the numbers aren’t on their side. I find this particularly amusing coming from my fellow Christians, who quite properly will argue that the majority is not always right, and that people with substantial credentials aren’t always right, yet given half a chance, they call on numbers and credentials every time. Smith doesn’t miss the opportunity to do this. He puts the Discovery Institute up against the National Center for Science Education, as though both sides were represented more or less by “think tanks” or advocacy groups. Though I think the NCSE would do quite well against the Discovery Institute were that the case, in actual fact, on the side of evolution there is practically every major scientific organization around. In terms of numbers, Smith uses the Dissent from Darwin list of 700 scientific dissenters (that’s the number Smith cites; I didn’t recount!), to which the NCSE can respond with Project Steve, which currently has 848 scientists just named some form of “Steve” supporting evolution.

    The NCSE says:

    Project Steve mocks this practice with a bit of humor, and because “Steves” are only about 1% of scientists, it incidentally makes the point that tens of thousands of scientists support evolution. And it honors the late Stephen Jay Gould, NCSE supporter and friend.

    So 848 coming from just 1% of the names, and 700 (according to Smith) on the dissenter list. Interesting, no? So we try to argue from numbers that are not there.

    Then he gets into a conversation with Donna Callaway, a member of the Florida Board of Education. She actually gets down to what this is about–feelings. Smith quotes her thus:

    Although she is not attempting to “arouse controversy,” Callaway told me she is concerned about what’s best for children. “I want an informed public so that when these and other similar decisions are made that affect all of us that they are reflective of how the people feel.”

    The science standards should reflect how people feel? Not in aerodynamics, nor likely in medicine, or engineering. In those areas we quite rightly ignore how people feel and go for the actual data. I, for example, feel that I am much more likely to die flying in an airplane than driving a car. The facts are the reverse. I try to feel differently, and I’m fairly determined to behave differently, but my feelings just won’t come along. Despite nearly 7,000 hours in the air while in the U. S. Air Force, I don’t like getting on a plane now. But I do it because I know for a fact that I am actually safer in the aircraft than driving a car.

    Now are people’s feelings on this issue valid? Well, Smith again suggests that Christians should pray, and he doesn’t conceal what they should pray for very well. But in a statement that may come back to haunt her, Donna Callaway said:

    A longtime, active member of First Baptist Church in Tallahassee, Callaway added, “My hope is that there will be times of prayer throughout Christian homes and churches directed toward this issue. As a SBOE member, I want those prayers. I want God to be part of this. Isn’t that ironic?”

    The only ironic thing I find in that is that a Christian is asking God to help her conceal the truth as God revealed it in the structure of the universe he created.

    Which leads me to my notes on the two stories. The problem we have is that certain Christians have decided that in order to be true, their creation myth must be historically factual. Let’s take simply one point. Christians have been happy for centuries with the notion that God took plain old dirt, and from it formed the first human being. There’s your fine ancestry folks–dirt! And it is fine, because God got into the mix and made a living soul out of the dirt. Now supposing instead that God takes a fine looking Chimpanzee, and forms from him the first human being? Would that work? What is the difference? We have something that is not human, and it become human with God’s intervention. (Now note that I’m not proposing this as the actual, historical process. There are, in fact, many intermediates.)

    Let’s alter the story again. God, being eternal and not bound to the limited way in which we view things, designed a universe that would eventually produce humanity. Would that be adequate? We still have something that is not human, and with God in the mix, it becomes human. It is quite possible to read the Christian creation myth (and I acknowledge that we are not the originators of it) non-historically and nonetheless get the key meanings.

    Let me suggest this: God inspired the creation story in a bronze age world with bronze age cosmology. He did not teach them 21st century cosmology. He simply indicated how he was involved using the categories, vocabulary, and literary style which they already knew.

    There is no need to ditch the old story over the new one. More importantly for our educators, the creation story is not the subject of science class. The theory of evolution is. It doesn’t matter how people feel. You think a frog is icky, you dissect him anyhow in biology class (or do they do that any more?). Feelings may drive politics, far too much in fact, but they shouldn’t drive the science curriculum.

    Let me close here with a quote from the National Council of Churches brochure Science, Religion, and the Teaching of Evolution in Public School Science Classes:

    Q: Is it possible to think that both religion and science are important?

    Of course. Many people would say that religion and science are separate categories of learning. The evolutionary biologist, and historian of science, Stephen Jay Gould, described them as “nonoverlapping magisteria.” The judge in a recent Dover, Pennsylvania court decision that affirmed the teaching of evolution in science classes criticized what he believes is a “contrived dualism” that pits science against religion. He wrote, “In deliberately omitting theological or ‘ultimate’ explanations for the existence or characteristics of the natural
    world, science does not consider issues of ‘meaning’ and ‘purpose’ in the world. While supernatural explanations may be important and have merit, they are not part of science.” Many well informed and well educated people believe that the learnings of science and religion enrich each other.

    That will show, at least, that it is not just Henry the Heretic that holds that the two do not have to conflict!