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		<title>Asked to Move in Church?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>I&#8217;m one of those people who tend to sit in or near the same place every week. In fact, in one church I attended, when I consciously decided to move, someone jokingly told me that I shouldn&#8217;t have moved, because they used to find their pew by seeing where I sat, and then sitting [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m one of those people who tend to sit in or near the same place every week. In fact, in one church I attended, when I consciously decided to move, someone jokingly told me that I shouldn&#8217;t have moved, because they used to find their pew by seeing where I sat, and then sitting a certain number of rows behind that. When I moved, it upset their system!</p>
	<p>That was a joke. But apparently <a title="Someone is sitting in my pew" href="http://www.umc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content3.aspx?c=lwL4KnN1LtH&amp;b=2789393&amp;ct=11677647&amp;notoc=1#.T3sFXFUNiSE.facebook">this sort of thing happens in real life</a>. This is one of those actions in church that is so grossly inhospitable that I have a hard time imagining people doing it, but, it appears they do.</p>
	<p>I suspect we&#8217;ll have to give up those pews before we get to heaven &#8230;<br />
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		<title>Marks of a Unified Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>Walter Brueggemann suggests how we might avoid getting tangled up on secondary issues:</p> <p>&#160;</p> <p></p> <p>(HT: Allan R. Bevere) Related Posts: Jesus vs. Religion &#8211; Really? Seventh-Day Adventist vs Methodist on Family Guy The Problem with Stories When Robots Chat A New Testament Political Theology Powered by Contextual Related Posts ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Walter Brueggemann suggests how we might avoid getting tangled up on secondary issues:</p>
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	<p>(HT: <a href="http://www.allanbevere.com/2012/02/secrets-kept-silent-in-church.html">Allan R. Bevere</a>)<br />
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		<title>Of Evangelism, Missions and Other Bad Words</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>The tragedy of the American church is that we have the greatest resources ever in the history of Christianity and for the most part we&#8217;re sitting on them, doing nothing. When we are doing something, most of what we do is for ourselves.</p> <p>The question, I&#8217;m told, is what we should be doing and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The tragedy of the American church is that we have the greatest resources ever in the history of Christianity and for the most part we&#8217;re sitting on them, doing nothing. When we are doing something, most of what we do is for ourselves.</p>
	<p>The question, I&#8217;m told, is what we should be doing and how we should be doing it. A close second is how we motivate people to go into action and do whatever it is we should be doing.</p>
	<p>But I think that&#8217;s the wrong question. If we&#8217;re going to be Christians, we know what we&#8217;re supposed to be doing, and it falls somewhere amongst the bad words I use in the title. The gospel commission in Matthew tells us to go and make disciples. It is repeated elsewhere in the New Testament in different words, but the essentials remain.</p>
	<p>This is why I continue to insist on using the words &#8220;evangelism&#8221; and &#8220;missions&#8221; no matter how bad they may sound to some people. I&#8217;ve been told that I will turn people off by doing so. I&#8217;m well aware that there have been many things done under the heading of these words that have likely driven people away from Christ rather than drawn them to him.</p>
	<p>There have been missionaries who spread a &#8220;gospel&#8221; of American culture rather than the Gospel of Jesus. There are been those who were very destructive to those with whom they came in contact. I&#8217;ve seen the occasional distant look, or heard the silence when I tell people my parents were missionaries. But I can tell you that my parents carried medical care and the love of Christ where they went, not American culture. The word (&#8220;missions&#8221; or &#8220;missionary&#8221;) is not the problem.</p>
	<p>Similarly I continue to use the word evangelism, proclamation of the Good News. There have been many whose &#8220;good news&#8221; was that the hearer should come to my church, follow the norms of my &#8220;church culture,&#8221; and pay tithes into the church budget, thus avoiding hell. But that isn&#8217;t the Gospel, and we know it, whatever we may practice.</p>
	<p>I have had a number of conversations with pastors who told me their churches looked good on paper. They had the right numbers. But at the same time, these pastors told me, things were not going well. The church wasn&#8217;t carrying out its mission. People were not becoming active.</p>
	<p>There&#8217;s a great debate amongst Christian scholars as to whether missions should consist mostly of care for the physical needs of people or whether it should be primarily about their spiritual needs. The big problem here is that the debate is often conducted between people who are actually doing neither one. More importantly they represent groups and denominations who, in overwhelming numbers, are doing neither.</p>
	<p>I would like to suggest that we don&#8217;t need a change of words. I want to say we need a change in the way we understand those words, and that our understanding should turn back to scripture. But that would be to get back into the very same debate. What I really think we need to do is replace the words with actions.</p>
	<p>We often think we need to straighten out our beliefs first, and then base our actions on right beliefs. I believe that in many cases this process needs to be reversed. Obey the obvious commands, and the more obscure ones will begin to fall into place.</p>
	<p>I was showing a pastor from overseas around the Pensacola area. He was a very activist evangelist in his homeland. He had planted many churches. He had built orphanages and schools. He had carried out both the mandates of caring for people&#8217;s physical needs and also addressed their spiritual needs. As we were driving he suddenly said to me: &#8220;You know, Henry, how you can hear the voice of God more often?&#8221; &#8220;How?&#8221; I asked. &#8220;Just obey what you&#8217;ve already heard and you&#8217;ll hear more from God.&#8221;</p>
	<p>I think that could apply to following the commands of God received through Scripture. How can I learn more of God? Act on what I have already learned.</p>
	<p>That isn&#8217;t a command for pastors, teachers, or for those who own publishing companies. It&#8217;s a command for all Christians. I often tell people that all Christians are witnesses. The question is what type of witness you&#8217;ll be. Will you be a good witness or a bad one. Even if you just warm a pew you are a witness. The testimony you give in that case is that Jesus is really not that important, and can be ignored by people who have serious things to do.</p>
	<p>To be a missionary you have to go. It may be a few feet. It may be a few thousand miles. If you&#8217;re a missionary, you&#8217;re also going to be an evangelist. You&#8217;ll be proclaiming good news. It&#8217;s a commission you get when you accept Christ in the first place. If you&#8217;re part of the church, you&#8217;re called.</p>
	<p><a href="http://energionpubs.com/books/1893729184/"><img class="alignleft" style="margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;" title="Will You Join the Cause of Global Missions cover" src="http://energionpubs.com/images/9781893729186m.png" alt="Will You Join the Cause of Global Missions?" width="300" height="464" /></a>Because of this, I&#8217;m delighted that my company, Energion Publications, has just released a new book, <a title="Will You Join the Cause of Global Missions" href="http://energionpubs.com/books/1893729184/">Will You Join the Cause of Global Missions?</a> by David Alan Black. I try to write a few notes on each book I publish. I view my business as a ministry, and there is a reason for the manuscripts I choose to publish, a reason beyond whether I think I can sell them. In this case I wanted to give some of my own thoughts on missions before discussing the book.</p>
	<p>For this book I&#8217;ve worked closely with the author and planned the way we&#8217;d publish and market it to make sure we can offer it for the lowest price possible, especially in quantity. It&#8217;s just 32 pages including front and back matter. Quantity prices at Energion Direct get this down to $3.24 each if you&#8217;re ordering 50 or more copies. (I&#8217;ll tell you why you want to order in quantity below.) But right at the moment you can beat that price <a title="Will You Join the Cause of Global Missions at Barnes and Noble" href="http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=Nsd*m1B2b/I&amp;subid=&amp;offerid=239662.1&amp;type=10&amp;tmpid=8432&amp;RD_PARM1=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.barnesandnoble.com%252Fw%252Fwill-you-join-the-cause-of-global-missions-david-alan-black%252F1108195953%253Fean%253D9781893729186%2526itm%253D1%2526usri%253D9781893729186">through B&amp;N</a>, which is still (February 9, 2012) offering the book for just $2.57.</p>
	<p>Why do I emphasize the price? Because we&#8217;ve pared this price to the bone to make the book as accessible as possible. Over the next few days watch for a Kindle edition, and we&#8217;ll follow that shortly with one for the Nook. The Kindle edition will be sold for just 99¢.</p>
	<p>So why buy this book in quantity?</p>
	<p>To put it simply, this isn&#8217;t a book for you to read and put on your shelf. It&#8217;s a challenge to action, and it&#8217;s a tool for Christians to use in leading other Christians to become active. Let me quote a few lines:</p>
	<p>&#8220;If churches in America were truly committed to the Great Commission, it would show in a lifestyle that matches our response to a lost and dying world&#8221; (8).</p>
	<p>&#8220;The most important principle to keep in mind is to employ material things for the kingdom of God rather than for ourselves&#8221; (9)</p>
	<p>&#8220;Kingdom Christians have found the pearl of great price. Like Jesus, they refuse to separate doctrine from practice, word from power&#8221; (10).</p>
	<p>&#8220;Under God&#8217;s great grace, we are called to be one with one another. What can create this kind of community? Community cannot be preached. It can only be practiced and the place to start is with oneself&#8221; (16).</p>
	<p>Now those are little snippets taken out of the context of a carefully planned presentation, but I think they give a taste.</p>
	<p>But the book ends in an unusual way. It asks you, the reader, to sign on the dotted line. Will you join the cause of global missions? If so there is a specific commitment, and a place to sign and date your commitment.</p>
	<p>Dave is a Baptist, and I&#8217;m a Methodist. I&#8217;m sure someone will find something &#8220;Baptist&#8221; about this book and point it out to me. That will be an excellent sign that they haven&#8217;t gotten the point. There is nothing in the commitment requested in this book that I, as a Methodist should not already be committed to. Dave doesn&#8217;t tell you in this book just what mix of social, physical, and spiritual you&#8217;re supposed to try for.  The Holy Spirit will guide you in that. And I&#8217;m convinced that, as that visiting pastor once told me, if you obey the clear things you already know, other things will become much clearer.</p>
	<p>This isn&#8217;t about denominations or the numbers on church rolls. It&#8217;s not about the amount of money in the offering plate. I believe all of those things will be impacted by our obedience to the gospel commission, but I believe it is dangerous to make material things the goal. This is about being sent into the world as the Father sent His Son.</p>
	<p>If you need a copy of this book to evaluate, <a href="mailto:henry@energion.com">let me know</a>. If you&#8217;d like a copy to review, let me know that as well.</p>
	<p>But above all, act on what you know.</p>
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		<title>Beware the Cult of the Speaker</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>Dave Black warns us today against the cult of the speaker. (With permission I&#8217;ve extracted the relevant portion as a post at JesusParadigm.com since Dave&#8217;s blog doesn&#8217;t allow linking to a specific post.)</p> <p>Considering what we&#8217;ve heard recently about megachurches creating satellite campuses that receive the message from the senior pastor on the main [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a title="Dave Black Online" href="http://daveblackonline.com/blog.htm">Dave Black</a> warns us today against the cult of the speaker. (With permission I&#8217;ve extracted the relevant portion as a post at JesusParadigm.com since Dave&#8217;s blog doesn&#8217;t allow linking to a specific post.)</p>
	<p>Considering what we&#8217;ve heard recently about megachurches creating <a title="Multi-site campus" href="http://marshill.com/2009/04/29/how-to-preach-in-different-time-zones-simultaneously">satellite campuses that receive the message from the senior pastor on the main campus via video</a>. It&#8217;s not my intent here to point to any particular speaker as an example of being a celebrity preacher or of participating the cult of the speaker. Those of us without the temptation of multi-site ministry or television opportunities can be just as much tempted to pride, arrogance, or any of the myriad of other temptations that come with celebrity.</p>
	<p>Dave&#8217;s post brought to my mind a concern I&#8217;ve had with many churches. I was a member of one church that had somewhere in the neighborhood of 10% of the average Sunday attendance in the lay speaker program. That&#8217;s a wonderful thing. But how often did any of these lay speakers speak? Not very frequently.</p>
	<p>Now as we were constantly reminded in lay speaking classes, preaching on Sunday is not the only place in which we could serve. But in the same way I would remind pastors that preaching on Sunday is not the only way they can serve their congregations.</p>
	<p>This was brought forcefully to mind a few years back when I invited a pastor to speak at a conference. He eventually had to back out because an emergency came up that kept him out of his pulpit for one week. He told me that he had a covenant with the congregation to be in the pulpit 50 out of 52 Sundays.</p>
	<p>While I commend that pastor for being faithful to his word and for putting his beliefs into practice, I don&#8217;t think having &#8220;the pastor&#8221; or &#8220;the senior pastor&#8221; speak every Sunday is necessarily a good thing. It&#8217;s possible that other people in the congregation have something valid to contribute as well. But much more importantly, if we don&#8217;t learn to speak about the gospel in church, where will we learn?</p>
	<p>If we want lay speakers (speaking &#8220;Methodist&#8221;) to learn how to speak, where could it be better to do this than at their home congregation? I know there are concerns about the quality of the preaching and the theological/doctrinal accuracy of the message. But one of the things a pastor could do would be to spend the time he or she might spend in sermon preparation helping a lay speaker prepare a sermon.</p>
	<p>Then what about the substantial number of members of any church who are neither called nor equipped to present a sermon? There are many varieties of sharing, including testimonies. We have this kind of thing in the church from time to time, but why is it so rare?</p>
	<p>I recall testimonies about the ministries of the church given over a period of four weeks. These were excellent. They gave me a better idea of what certain church ministries were accomplishing. It was great to hear from the people involved.</p>
	<p>Recently we had a youth Sunday. We have one of those a year. Why is it just once a year? The young man who brought the message did an excellent job. I could stand to hear him more often.</p>
	<p>We have many members who feel very inadequate to talk about their faith. Does not the example set by the Sunday service suggest that it requires a trained professional to present the Christian message? Does that example not encourage people to think that what they need to refer their friends and acquaintances to the pastor if they are to have a conversation about faith?</p>
	<p>At my home church (<a title="First United Methodist Church, Pensacola" href="http://fumcpensacola.com">First UMC, Pensacola</a>), we are blessed with an excellent pastoral staff. I very much appreciate their ministry in preaching. But I wonder just how much that ministry might be expanded if more time were spent training members of the congregation to share in everything from a one minute testimony to a full sermon.</p>
	<p>We often wonder why people tend to become pew sitters rather than becoming active. But isn&#8217;t the example of Sunday morning a suggestion that this is precisely the proper role for the &#8220;ordinary&#8221; church member? I think it&#8217;s worth considering.</p>
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		<title>Rachel Held Evans on Evangelical Celebrity</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>I think she has two excellent points, the first about the danger of thinking of oneself as a celebrity (evangelical or not!), and the second about the value of structured prayer. I&#8217;d add a note on the value of structured Bible study, which also forces one to leave one&#8217;s comfort zone and one&#8217;s own [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think she has <a title="Rachel Held Evans on Evangelical Celebrity" href="http://rachelheldevans.com/reflections-evangelical-celebrity">two excellent points</a>, the first about the danger of thinking of oneself as a celebrity (evangelical or not!), and the second about the value of structured prayer. I&#8217;d add a note on the value of structured Bible study, which also forces one to leave one&#8217;s comfort zone and one&#8217;s own desires and to let God speak.</p>
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		<title>The Problem with My Church&#8217;s Children&#8217;s Ministry</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2011/12/the-problem-with-my-churchs-childrens-ministry/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>My church has a good children&#8217;s ministry. I&#8217;m impressed every time I hear our children&#8217;s minister present a children&#8217;s moment during the church service, and every time I&#8217;ve encountered the children&#8217;s programs myself, including the couple of times I&#8217;ve been invited to speak.</p> <p>The children are learning a great deal about Christianity, their church, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My church has a good children&#8217;s ministry. I&#8217;m impressed every time I hear our children&#8217;s minister present a children&#8217;s moment during the church service, and every time I&#8217;ve encountered the children&#8217;s programs myself, including the couple of times I&#8217;ve been invited to speak.</p>
	<p>The children are learning a great deal about Christianity, their church, the Bible, and how to live. The problems are challenging and sound. I&#8217;m likely to always push for more challenging material, but it&#8217;s possible that I would go overboard on that.</p>
	<p>I was talking to a church leader a while back who told me that one of all the things going on in the church, the children&#8217;s ministry made him most hopeful. Despite the fact that my children are grown, and they&#8217;re taking my grandchildren to churches in other cities, I would agree.</p>
	<p>So how can I have a problem with this exceptional ministry?</p>
	<p>The problem I have isn&#8217;t with the program. In fact, I suspect that your church has the same problem as does mine. I&#8217;m wondering just where the needed backup is. No matter how good your church&#8217;s children&#8217;s program is, you can&#8217;t depend on other people (children&#8217;s ministers, teachers, pastors, and so forth) to nurture your child&#8217;s faith.</p>
	<p>Just as the home situation is a better predictor of how a child will do at learning, so the home is where most spiritual formation takes place. The church can help, but it cannot replace the parents (or grandparents!) in preparing children for life.</p>
	<p>My parents were quite willing to talk about their faith, though they were much more willing to live it. I know my parents prayed, not because they told me they did so, nor because they talked about praying, but because I saw and heard them doing it. I know they spent time studying the Bible, again not because they said so many pious things about the Bible, but because I saw them do it.</p>
	<p>I have in my possession one Bible from each of my parents. One is a pocket sized King James Bible that belonged to my father. There isn&#8217;t a page in that Bible that isn&#8217;t packed with the notes my dad wrote as he read it year after year. It&#8217;s in doubtful shape now. But I don&#8217;t have to wonder just how much my father cared about his Bible.</p>
	<p>I got the Hebrew Bible I carry from my mother. It&#8217;s the smaller edition of the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia. She wanted to stick with the larger edition because the print in this one is too small. But this Bible reminds me that not only did she study all her life, but that she eventually took the time to learn both Hebrew and Greek to use in her personal study.</p>
	<p>It was not uncommon to hear the words of scripture from my parents&#8217; lips. But even more importantly they tried to put those words into practice, from the various places the practiced medicine here in the United States, in Canada, in Mexico, and in South America. They gave of themselves.</p>
	<p>And that is the true formula for seeing your children involved not just in church but in service throughout their lives. Let them see you do it. Let them know that your faith is important to you, not just because you send them to a Sunday School class, or because you attend a worship service, but because you have made it part of your life.</p>
	<p>They&#8217;re going to remember a great deal more of what they see you model than they will of what you or someone else tells them. And if you make prayer and Bible study a part of your daily life you&#8217;ll also find that those wonderful folks who work in children&#8217;s ministry can accomplish much more than they can otherwise.</p>
	<p>Don&#8217;t make your children&#8217;s faith an afterthought. Live your life of faith. Let them see something worth choosing and pursuing.<br />
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		<title>Through Difficulties to Ministry</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>Shauna Hyde is one of the authors at Energion Publications, so I admit to bias, but I really did like this write-up in the Charleston (WV) Gazette-Mail. Her book, Victim No More! is mentioned in the article.</p> <p>I&#8217;m often critical of newspaper articles, not so much for being negative, but for being shallow. I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Shauna Hyde is one of the authors at <a title="Energion Publications home page" href="http://energionpubs.com">Energion Publications</a>, so I admit to bias, but I really did like this <a title="West Virginia Gazette-Mail on Shauna Marie Hyde" href="http://www.wvgazette.com/News/201111200074?page=1">write-up in the Charleston (WV) Gazette-Mail</a>. Her book, <a title="Victim No More catalog page" href="http://energionpubs.com/books/1893729966/">Victim No More!</a> is mentioned in the article.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m often critical of newspaper articles, not so much for being negative, but for being shallow. I think this one is pretty good.</p>
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		<title>Connectionalism and Dysfunctional Churches</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2011/10/connectionalism-and-dysfunctional-churches/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>I have made a few negative comments about conference dashboards keeping statistics on membership, apportionments, and other activities available to anyone who wants to read. I continue to question whether these numbers really tell the story of the health of the churches. There are, I believe, some very large and growing churches that have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have made a few negative comments about conference dashboards keeping statistics on membership, apportionments, and other activities available to anyone who wants to read. I continue to question whether these numbers really tell the story of the health of the churches. There are, I believe, some very large and growing churches that have little or nothing to do with the kingdom of God.</p>
	<p>Nonetheless, I think we have a problem with accountability in the <a class="zem_slink" title="United Methodist Church" href="http://www.umc.org" rel="homepage">United Methodist Church</a>. When I took my new member class in my first United Methodist congregation, I recall the teacher, who made a number of historical errors, emphasized connectionalism. But if I were to go by his discussion of it, connectionalism means simply that we all go help one another as needed; nothing was said about accountability.</p>
	<p>Those who are pushing the statistical approach are, I believe, responding to a very real problem. Pastors and church congregations in the United Methodist Church can go on indefinitely violating the discipline of the church or refusing to take necessary actions to make their church successful, while expecting that others will take up the slack.</p>
	<p>That is what happens when a church continually fails to pay its apportionments. Now I&#8217;m not 100% a fan of apportionments as they are currently implemented, but they do represent a critical element of connectionalism. We put our money together to accomplish things we can&#8217;t do separately. Whatever reforms the system might need, the basic concept is sound, and more importantly if you have such a system, and some churches don&#8217;t do their share, all suffer.</p>
	<p>This means that we need accountability as part of our connectional system. Churches need to be accountable to those who support them. In a more congregational system, an older church barely hanging on while slowly dying would have a hard time getting people to send money to help. A United Methodist congregation that refuses to take necessary actions, and continues to fail to support the team will nonetheless benefit from the resources of the denomination.</p>
	<p>We should be willing to give money to support the mission of the church. But supporting a church that is willfully imitating a sinking ship sliding under the waves is not mission—it&#8217;s bad stewardship.</p>
	<p>In addition, dysfunctional congregations continue to be part of the witness our denomination gives regarding Christ. Our &#8220;brand&#8221; can be tarnished by the actions of any of our churches. In the case of a denomination, tarnishing the brand also provides a negative witness—tarnishes the brand, so to speak—of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.</p>
	<p>My problem is that statistics can and generally do fail to get the entire picture. You can have good statistics and still not be building the kingdom of God. I welcome moves to make pastors more accountable. I think more could be done to make churches accountable as well.</p>
	<p>But accountability is going to take more than reading the numbers. It will require people with good discernment who can see the context, make the necessary decisions, and take responsibility for those decisions. It may be difficult. We may prefer to find some objective measure, but it is still necessary. An objective measure of a subjective set of values will, by nature, be deceptive.</p>
	<p>In critical ways, the church is not a business. Thus my call is for accountability carried out by human beings who exercise all their discernment and wisdom and seek to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit.</p>
	<p>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>Hired Staff Won&#8217;t Solve Church Problems</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>Yesterday I posted one of my short stories over on my Jevlir blog. For those who don&#8217;t read that blog (its readership is quite low), I wanted to write a couple of notes here.</p> <p>Many churches think they&#8217;ll find the solution to the problem of declining membership or financial problems by hiring just the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yesterday I posted one of my short stories over <a title="Our Church is Shrinking" href="http://www.jevlir.com/2011/09/our-church-is-shrinking/">on my Jevlir blog</a>. For those who don&#8217;t read that blog (its readership is quite low), I wanted to write a couple of notes here.</p>
	<p>Many churches think they&#8217;ll find the solution to the problem of declining membership or financial problems by hiring just the right staff. But in most churches, the problems are much deeper than who is on the staff. In most declinining churches, I would suggest there is a need to change the church culture. You can&#8217;t hire a &#8220;Minister of Evangelism&#8221; and expect that to make the church grow. A &#8220;stewardship consultant&#8221; is only going to be able to go as far as the church&#8217;s commitment will take it.</p>
	<p>The solution to declining membership, in my view, is discipleship. If you can&#8217;t get the church to commit to being disciples in all ways, then no number of paid staff is going to solve your problem. In order to change the culture of the church, you may have to lose even more members. Let the folks who don&#8217;t want to be disciples and who don&#8217;t want to be ministers (every member should be!) move on.</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t mean by this to sit in judgment on their discipleship. What I mean is to allow the self selection. If the church determines to be Christ in their community and to take this commitment seriously, then those who don&#8217;t want to go along will get annoyed and leave. Too frequently, our response to this is, &#8220;Oh no! We&#8217;re losing more members!&#8221; So we keep the problem alive by sacrificing discipleship to numbers.</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with church staff when the purpose of that staff is to facilitate the ministry of the members. But in an overwhelming number of cases, the paid staff is expected to do the ministry, and the stewardship problem is to get the members to cough up enough money to pay the staff to do the things that they, the members, should be doing themselves.</p>
	<p>The gospel fulfilled in discipleship is the only answer &#8230; not more paid staff to replace the ministry of the whole body.</p>
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		<title>One Reason Christian Leaders Fall &#8211; Overload</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>There have been any number of Christian leaders who have fallen recently, and while the publicity makes it appear that there are more and more, I suspect this isn&#8217;t anything new.</p> <p>One major reason for a failure in leadership is that we put too much trust in people. We give a pastor a great [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There have been any number of Christian leaders who have fallen recently, and while the publicity makes it appear that there are more and more, I suspect this isn&#8217;t anything new.</p>
	<p>One major reason for a failure in leadership is that we put too much trust in people. We give a pastor a great deal of authority, we give him a job that is impossible for any one person to do, and then we&#8217;re surprised when failure occurs. I think the pattern of Christian leadership is not supposed to put that much pressure or authority on any single person.</p>
	<p>I believe that reasonable responsibility, reasonable trust, and a reasonable job load would be a good starting point to helping Christian leaders keep their balance.</p>
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