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		<title>By: Larry B</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2008/12/dialogue-with-those-who-agree/comment-page-1/#comment-128403</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what the reaction would have been if President elect Obama had chosen the current Pope to give the invocation.  His positions on the issues that are creating so much controversy with Pastor Warren are the same.  I personally think there wouldn&#039;t be much controversy in the choice of the Pope (perhaps there would be some people upset that he picked somebody who wasn&#039;t American, but that&#039;s tangential to this issue).  Which leads me to believe that a lot of people who are upset with the pick are upset with Rick Warren as a person rather than a simple ideological problem.    

We also forget that those Americans who aren&#039;t religious or prefer separation of church and state could be just as equally outraged that there is even an invocation and benediction to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what the reaction would have been if President elect Obama had chosen the current Pope to give the invocation.  His positions on the issues that are creating so much controversy with Pastor Warren are the same.  I personally think there wouldn&#8217;t be much controversy in the choice of the Pope (perhaps there would be some people upset that he picked somebody who wasn&#8217;t American, but that&#8217;s tangential to this issue).  Which leads me to believe that a lot of people who are upset with the pick are upset with Rick Warren as a person rather than a simple ideological problem.    </p>
<p>We also forget that those Americans who aren&#8217;t religious or prefer separation of church and state could be just as equally outraged that there is even an invocation and benediction to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Westmoreland-White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Westmoreland-White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with reaching out to those with whom we disagree, but the invocation is the first words that will be heard on this day.  It is a position of high honor--and that going to a man who compared same-sex marriage to beastiality, pedophilia, and polygamy. Also, he has called for the assassination of foreign leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with reaching out to those with whom we disagree, but the invocation is the first words that will be heard on this day.  It is a position of high honor&#8211;and that going to a man who compared same-sex marriage to beastiality, pedophilia, and polygamy. Also, he has called for the assassination of foreign leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Neufeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree it was a good choice, and I had &lt;em&gt;intended&lt;/em&gt; to get both of your readings of my statement into my post, though I may have been less than successful.  I&#039;m glad you read it both ways and then made it explicit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it was a good choice, and I had <em>intended</em> to get both of your readings of my statement into my post, though I may have been less than successful.  I&#8217;m glad you read it both ways and then made it explicit.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is also doubtless difficult to carry on dialogue with those who regard you as grossly immoral, which is the position in which the GLBT community is placed.&quot;

I initially read this wrong, but my misreading also applies: &quot;It is doubtless difficult to carry on dialogue with those whom you regard as grossly immoral, which is how many in the GLBT community think about those who oppose gay marriage.&quot;  Most of the reactions I&#039;ve read about the Warren choice was delivered in the same kind of morally absolutist and strident tone that is usually displayed by the religious right.  The fact that the choice of Warren puts both rhetorically over-the-top sides into a reactive fit indicates to me Obama has likely made a good choice, both symbolically and practically..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is also doubtless difficult to carry on dialogue with those who regard you as grossly immoral, which is the position in which the GLBT community is placed.&#8221;</p>
<p>I initially read this wrong, but my misreading also applies: &#8220;It is doubtless difficult to carry on dialogue with those whom you regard as grossly immoral, which is how many in the GLBT community think about those who oppose gay marriage.&#8221;  Most of the reactions I&#8217;ve read about the Warren choice was delivered in the same kind of morally absolutist and strident tone that is usually displayed by the religious right.  The fact that the choice of Warren puts both rhetorically over-the-top sides into a reactive fit indicates to me Obama has likely made a good choice, both symbolically and practically..</p>
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		<title>By: Dialogue with Those Who Agree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dialogue with Those Who Agree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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