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	<title>Comments on: Distress, Lies, and Christlikeness</title>
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		<title>By: Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Convincing Yourself of Falsehood</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2008/03/distress-lies-and-christlikeness/comment-page-1/#comment-103036</link>
		<dc:creator>Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Convincing Yourself of Falsehood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mention this because of a discussion about lying in science and other matters. Larry B made an interesting comment here, and expanded on it over at Quintessence of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mention this because of a discussion about lying in science and other matters. Larry B made an interesting comment here, and expanded on it over at Quintessence of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Larry B</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2008/03/distress-lies-and-christlikeness/comment-page-1/#comment-102989</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I left some thoughts on Dr. Matheson&#039;s blog, but in general I agree with your last sentence.  It&#039;s something I&#039;m not comfortable about either but it is important.  

It&#039;s perhaps a little more clear cut when dealing with issues of scientific fact, but If we believe our own truth claims about Christianity and the exculsivity it entails, then we have to feel the same tug to label statements from a Buddhist, for example, lies or false when they contradict Christian theology.  That get&#039;s even dicier, although I would argue that the truth claims being debated in that case have even more at stake than arguing over matters of scientific interest. 

Would it be appropriate to call people who believe other religions liars or even to explicate to them that their belief statments are false?  I&#039;m not sure.  That&#039;s ultimately where tolerance has to enter in.  We don&#039;t have to accept their truth statements, but we do have to tolerate their statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left some thoughts on Dr. Matheson&#8217;s blog, but in general I agree with your last sentence.  It&#8217;s something I&#8217;m not comfortable about either but it is important.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s perhaps a little more clear cut when dealing with issues of scientific fact, but If we believe our own truth claims about Christianity and the exculsivity it entails, then we have to feel the same tug to label statements from a Buddhist, for example, lies or false when they contradict Christian theology.  That get&#8217;s even dicier, although I would argue that the truth claims being debated in that case have even more at stake than arguing over matters of scientific interest. </p>
<p>Would it be appropriate to call people who believe other religions liars or even to explicate to them that their belief statments are false?  I&#8217;m not sure.  That&#8217;s ultimately where tolerance has to enter in.  We don&#8217;t have to accept their truth statements, but we do have to tolerate their statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Poirier</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2008/03/distress-lies-and-christlikeness/comment-page-1/#comment-102943</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Poirier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Henry,

As you can probably tell from the above pingback, I wrote a reply to your post.  It&#039;s long and rambling -- and not perfectly on topic -- so I figured I&#039;d post it on my own blog.  

I don&#039;t have occasion to worry about creationism versus evolution much any more, to be honest.  I kind of gave up on creationism in my teens, and there isn&#039;t a lot of debate about it where I live (Toronto, Canada).  However, I have been reading books on the accuracy/meaning of the bible, and I&#039;ve found a lot of the same things you&#039;re discussing here, so I wrote up some of what I&#039;ve been thinking about it.

Thanks -- as always -- for the thought-provoking post.

Regards,
   Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Henry,</p>
<p>As you can probably tell from the above pingback, I wrote a reply to your post.  It&#8217;s long and rambling &#8212; and not perfectly on topic &#8212; so I figured I&#8217;d post it on my own blog.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have occasion to worry about creationism versus evolution much any more, to be honest.  I kind of gave up on creationism in my teens, and there isn&#8217;t a lot of debate about it where I live (Toronto, Canada).  However, I have been reading books on the accuracy/meaning of the bible, and I&#8217;ve found a lot of the same things you&#8217;re discussing here, so I wrote up some of what I&#8217;ve been thinking about it.</p>
<p>Thanks &#8212; as always &#8212; for the thought-provoking post.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
   Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: Courage, my friend &#187; by Chris Poirier &#187; Truth versus Belief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courage, my friend &#187; by Chris Poirier &#187; Truth versus Belief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which I read (cough) religiously.&#160; He&#8217;s always thought-provoking.&#160; Today he posted on the topic of how Christian writers often seem to distort or misrepresent the truth when arguing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which I read (cough) religiously.&nbsp; He&#8217;s always thought-provoking.&nbsp; Today he posted on the topic of how Christian writers often seem to distort or misrepresent the truth when arguing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be interested in seeing the comment I just placed pretty far down on Kevin Corcoran&#039;s post, b/c it deals with the same issues you mention on the greater responsibility held by people who have (and loudly proclaim, as in Hugh Ross&#039;s case) academic credentials.

http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/honest-when-youre-telling-lie.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be interested in seeing the comment I just placed pretty far down on Kevin Corcoran&#8217;s post, b/c it deals with the same issues you mention on the greater responsibility held by people who have (and loudly proclaim, as in Hugh Ross&#8217;s case) academic credentials.</p>
<p><a href="http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/honest-when-youre-telling-lie.html" rel="nofollow">http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/honest-when-youre-telling-lie.html</a></p>
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