Comments on: J. Barton Payne on Theistic Evolution http://henrysthreads.com/2008/01/j-barton-payne-on-theistic-evolution/ Thoughts on Religion in the World from a passionate, moderate, liberal charismatic Christian Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:11:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Threads from Henry’s Web » The Bible Does Not Contain Science http://henrysthreads.com/2008/01/j-barton-payne-on-theistic-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-118356 Threads from Henry’s Web » The Bible Does Not Contain Science Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:51:00 +0000 http://www.energionpubs.com/wordpress/?p=1087#comment-118356 [...] take Genesis at face value as narrative history (I discuss what I believe the actual genre is here, and then demand that reality conform to their view. When reality fails to play nice, they simply [...] [...] take Genesis at face value as narrative history (I discuss what I believe the actual genre is here, and then demand that reality conform to their view. When reality fails to play nice, they simply [...]

]]> By: Lifewish http://henrysthreads.com/2008/01/j-barton-payne-on-theistic-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-99114 Lifewish Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:32:31 +0000 http://www.energionpubs.com/wordpress/?p=1087#comment-99114 Completely off-topic, but I thought you might be interested in this site: <a href="http://www.findingcommonground.info/" rel="nofollow">Common Ground</a>. It's a small group of Christians, atheists, agnostics, etc. that have joined up to bounce ideas off each other. Sounds like your sort of thing. (Disclaimer: I'm not one of the participants, but I've been in contact with some of them for years.) Completely off-topic, but I thought you might be interested in this site: Common Ground. It’s a small group of Christians, atheists, agnostics, etc. that have joined up to bounce ideas off each other. Sounds like your sort of thing.

(Disclaimer: I’m not one of the participants, but I’ve been in contact with some of them for years.)

]]> By: Larry B http://henrysthreads.com/2008/01/j-barton-payne-on-theistic-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-99047 Larry B Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:57:00 +0000 http://www.energionpubs.com/wordpress/?p=1087#comment-99047 Good observations Henry. Your comments about the apocrypha are especially relevant. I encountered the apocrypha in my Catholic upbringing and was always a little skeptical of the way protestants seemed to take everything so literally. I think your point about myth conveying information and even truth is very salient. Scientists practice this type of truthtelling all the time when developing new theories. Einstein was famous for his thought experiments on relativity that involved people traveling near the speed of light. Nobody can actually do that, but it conveyed truth none the less. The controversy a while back over the Passion of the Christ is similar. The story is largely similar to a nun's vision that was recorded. The catholic church says the vision can be helpful for understanding the crucifixion. Did she see it as it really happened? The catholic church doesn't think so, but they believe the truth delivered by it is useful for people to here. Protestants went crazy analyzing and criticizing the details of the movie and sometimes lost the point. I would agree that maybe protestant churches need to take a look at educating it's members on how myth can and is used. Good observations Henry. Your comments about the apocrypha are especially relevant. I encountered the apocrypha in my Catholic upbringing and was always a little skeptical of the way protestants seemed to take everything so literally.

I think your point about myth conveying information and even truth is very salient. Scientists practice this type of truthtelling all the time when developing new theories. Einstein was famous for his thought experiments on relativity that involved people traveling near the speed of light. Nobody can actually do that, but it conveyed truth none the less.

The controversy a while back over the Passion of the Christ is similar. The story is largely similar to a nun’s vision that was recorded. The catholic church says the vision can be helpful for understanding the crucifixion. Did she see it as it really happened? The catholic church doesn’t think so, but they believe the truth delivered by it is useful for people to here. Protestants went crazy analyzing and criticizing the details of the movie and sometimes lost the point. I would agree that maybe protestant churches need to take a look at educating it’s members on how myth can and is used.

]]> By: Christopher Heard http://henrysthreads.com/2008/01/j-barton-payne-on-theistic-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-99027 Christopher Heard Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:40:47 +0000 http://www.energionpubs.com/wordpress/?p=1087#comment-99027 Thank you for the link and the additional comments, Henry! I think you have sit several nails right on their respective heads. Thank you for the link and the additional comments, Henry! I think you have sit several nails right on their respective heads.

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