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	<title>Comments on: Blogroll:  Geocreationism.com</title>
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	<description>Thoughts on Religion in the World from a passionate, moderate, liberal charismatic Christian</description>
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		<title>By: Geocreationist</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2008/01/blogroll-geocreationismcom/comment-page-1/#comment-98940</link>
		<dc:creator>Geocreationist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>I do not believe that the literature involved was written with the intent to provide a narrative history of anything, but rather to express God’s relationship to creation using the cosmology and symbolic language of the time.</i></b><br />
One comment about this.  I believe it is both.  In other words, in order to understand the history, you have to understand the what the cosmology of the time was.  From there, you can back out what an observer (Jesus, Holy Spirit) would have seen, and from there deduct the actual physical conditions that must have existed.  I was not sure it would work when I started out.  It was actually an experiment at first.  But then I found that it worked, and have mapped all six days to actual scientifically verifiable events.</p>
<p>One other note.  I have found that people tend to see Evolution as the corner stone of Geocreationism.  Perhaps it will be eventually, but I didn&#8217;t even start investigating evolution itself until I had mapped all 6 days to actual recorded events.  But then, I needed to investigate Evolution more thoruoghly before writing about 6.  My own first step (which is in my Study Outline page (<a href="http://www.geocreationism.com/study-outline/" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocreationism.com/study-outline/</a>) ) was to establish that Jesus was in fact present at Creation, and gave Moses an account of what happened.  The next step was to combine the 4 accounts of creation that I found in scripture.  The 3rd step was to establish scientifically the conditions that are very well described by Genesis 1.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Neufeld</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2008/01/blogroll-geocreationismcom/comment-page-1/#comment-98937</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I intentionally outlined what I see as the differences in the first post to get things started.  I intend to get into more detail and also note agreements in future posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I intentionally outlined what I see as the differences in the first post to get things started.  I intend to get into more detail and also note agreements in future posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Neufeld</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2008/01/blogroll-geocreationismcom/comment-page-1/#comment-98936</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I read that more or less as you intended it the first time, i.e. that you would agree that if God is not there, there are not laws, but that you might see that as insufficient.  You can correct me if I&#039;m wrong here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I read that more or less as you intended it the first time, i.e. that you would agree that if God is not there, there are not laws, but that you might see that as insufficient.  You can correct me if I&#8217;m wrong here.</p>
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		<title>By: Geocreationist</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2008/01/blogroll-geocreationismcom/comment-page-1/#comment-98890</link>
		<dc:creator>Geocreationist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh.  The quote that was supposed to show up in the pointy brackets is, &quot;If therefore it turns out you are correct (remove God and the laws stop working), then I would have no problem with that. At this point however, I am not convinced.&quot;  Next time, I&#039;ll just use italics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh.  The quote that was supposed to show up in the pointy brackets is, &#8220;If therefore it turns out you are correct (remove God and the laws stop working), then I would have no problem with that. At this point however, I am not convinced.&#8221;  Next time, I&#8217;ll just use italics.</p>
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		<title>By: Geocreationist</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2008/01/blogroll-geocreationismcom/comment-page-1/#comment-98889</link>
		<dc:creator>Geocreationist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;&gt;
I said this above, but do not like how it sounds.  Upon further reflection, I do not see how you can&#039;t be right on that point.  In fact, it may be compatible with what I already believe.  I would need to reflect on it more.</description>
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I said this above, but do not like how it sounds.  Upon further reflection, I do not see how you can&#8217;t be right on that point.  In fact, it may be compatible with what I already believe.  I would need to reflect on it more.</p>
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		<title>By: Geocreationist</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2008/01/blogroll-geocreationismcom/comment-page-1/#comment-98886</link>
		<dc:creator>Geocreationist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry,

I appreciate the feedback, whether it be on your blog or mine.  I am willing to change some of my viewpoints if they are shown not to work.  It is more the intention that matters to me.  For example, I am trying to forge a theory that has God present.  It would seem that you agree with that intent, even if you disagree with the solution.  If therefore it turns out you are correct (remove God and the laws stop working), then I would have no problem with that.  At this point however, I am not convinced.

In regards to terminology, that&#039;s a tough one for me, because any use of common terminology will conflict with at least someone&#039;s notion of what that terminology means.  &quot;Theistic Evolution&quot; is one such term.  I always risk being misunderstand when I use it.

Also, you are correct that the &quot;harmony&quot; I see has required some compromise in both science and scriptural interpretation.  The scientific compromise is primarily in my embracing somewhat recent (1999 to 2001) research into how zircon crystals formed 4.4 billion years ago.  I say it&#039;s a compromise because it hasn&#039;t been embraced yet to my knowledge, and the fact that it establishes Day 1 to me is my proof that it&#039;s correct.  Secular scientists would never say that.  The compromises I&#039;ve made in scriptural interpretation, well, they will certainly be evident as you read them, but my intention is to embrace them as history.

Finally, I think you might perceive an inconsistancy in my view, in regards to God&#039;s continual presence.  In some posts I say that God only acts during the &quot;days&quot; and not the nights.  In other places, I say He is present during the entire thing.  The inconsistancy comes from my view that the Father and Son have different creative roles, and sometimes I refer to them by name and other times I just say God.

Anyways, I look forward to seeing what you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry,</p>
<p>I appreciate the feedback, whether it be on your blog or mine.  I am willing to change some of my viewpoints if they are shown not to work.  It is more the intention that matters to me.  For example, I am trying to forge a theory that has God present.  It would seem that you agree with that intent, even if you disagree with the solution.  If therefore it turns out you are correct (remove God and the laws stop working), then I would have no problem with that.  At this point however, I am not convinced.</p>
<p>In regards to terminology, that&#8217;s a tough one for me, because any use of common terminology will conflict with at least someone&#8217;s notion of what that terminology means.  &#8220;Theistic Evolution&#8221; is one such term.  I always risk being misunderstand when I use it.</p>
<p>Also, you are correct that the &#8220;harmony&#8221; I see has required some compromise in both science and scriptural interpretation.  The scientific compromise is primarily in my embracing somewhat recent (1999 to 2001) research into how zircon crystals formed 4.4 billion years ago.  I say it&#8217;s a compromise because it hasn&#8217;t been embraced yet to my knowledge, and the fact that it establishes Day 1 to me is my proof that it&#8217;s correct.  Secular scientists would never say that.  The compromises I&#8217;ve made in scriptural interpretation, well, they will certainly be evident as you read them, but my intention is to embrace them as history.</p>
<p>Finally, I think you might perceive an inconsistancy in my view, in regards to God&#8217;s continual presence.  In some posts I say that God only acts during the &#8220;days&#8221; and not the nights.  In other places, I say He is present during the entire thing.  The inconsistancy comes from my view that the Father and Son have different creative roles, and sometimes I refer to them by name and other times I just say God.</p>
<p>Anyways, I look forward to seeing what you think.</p>
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