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		<title>By: Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Barbara Forrest makes Statement on Firing of Chris Comer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Barbara Forrest makes Statement on Firing of Chris Comer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogged before about the firing of Chris Comer. PZ Myers now has a post that includes the full statement by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Henry Neufeld</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2007/11/the-continued-saga-of-science-education/comment-page-1/#comment-94382</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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You are the one who needs to learn, ignoramus. Here is how one law dictionary defines “due process” –
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<p>Oh, please, do continue to demonstrate your ignorance.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Fafarman</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2007/11/the-continued-saga-of-science-education/comment-page-1/#comment-94381</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Fafarman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Start by learning what &#039;due process&#039; actually is.&quot;

You are the one who needs to learn,  ignoramus.   Here is how  one law dictionary defines &quot;due process&quot; --

&quot;a fundamental principle of fairness in all legal matters, both civil and criminal,  &lt;em&gt;especially in the courts&lt;/em&gt;. &quot;

Note that the term &quot;due process&quot; is not restricted to the courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Start by learning what &#8216;due process&#8217; actually is.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are the one who needs to learn,  ignoramus.   Here is how  one law dictionary defines &#8220;due process&#8221; &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;a fundamental principle of fairness in all legal matters, both civil and criminal,  <em>especially in the courts</em>. &#8221;</p>
<p>Note that the term &#8220;due process&#8221; is not restricted to the courts.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Neufeld</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2007/11/the-continued-saga-of-science-education/comment-page-1/#comment-94200</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

If you tried harder, could you work more errors into less space?

Start by learning what &quot;due process&quot; actually is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>If you tried harder, could you work more errors into less space?</p>
<p>Start by learning what &#8220;due process&#8221; actually is.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Neufeld</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2007/11/the-continued-saga-of-science-education/comment-page-1/#comment-94199</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m fully in agreement on the confusion issue.  There are those who portray evolution as the organizing principle of everything, not just biology.  There are some wider applications, but not &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; wide.

What I would expect, however, is that people who are paid to deal with curriculum full time could figure this out and then explain it.  That&#039;s what we&#039;re paying them to do.

Of course, all the rest of us need to do our best to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fully in agreement on the confusion issue.  There are those who portray evolution as the organizing principle of everything, not just biology.  There are some wider applications, but not <em>that</em> wide.</p>
<p>What I would expect, however, is that people who are paid to deal with curriculum full time could figure this out and then explain it.  That&#8217;s what we&#8217;re paying them to do.</p>
<p>Of course, all the rest of us need to do our best to help.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Fafarman</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2007/11/the-continued-saga-of-science-education/comment-page-1/#comment-94154</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Fafarman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You Darwinists have no respect for due process.   Chris Comer was directed to not communicate in writing or otherwise with anyone outside the agency regarding an upcoming science curriculum review,  and she willfully violated that directive.     The email she sent out announced a one-sided presentation of a theory that intelligent design is part of a fundy conspiracy to take over the USA.    The idea of teaching criticisms of evolution is especially entitled to a fair hearing precisely because it is a controversial idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Darwinists have no respect for due process.   Chris Comer was directed to not communicate in writing or otherwise with anyone outside the agency regarding an upcoming science curriculum review,  and she willfully violated that directive.     The email she sent out announced a one-sided presentation of a theory that intelligent design is part of a fundy conspiracy to take over the USA.    The idea of teaching criticisms of evolution is especially entitled to a fair hearing precisely because it is a controversial idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry B</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2007/11/the-continued-saga-of-science-education/comment-page-1/#comment-94101</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the problems for evolution is that its public face isn&#039;t always scientific either.  Evolution as a theory of origin is as nebulous as an ID argument.  Evolutionary principles when applied in the context of biological science are solid.  It&#039;s not often clear to school boards what it is that is/should be taught regarding evolution.  Some clarity in this discussion would help.  Voices like Dawkins have left people confused as to what the primary role of evolution in science really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems for evolution is that its public face isn&#8217;t always scientific either.  Evolution as a theory of origin is as nebulous as an ID argument.  Evolutionary principles when applied in the context of biological science are solid.  It&#8217;s not often clear to school boards what it is that is/should be taught regarding evolution.  Some clarity in this discussion would help.  Voices like Dawkins have left people confused as to what the primary role of evolution in science really is.</p>
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