Comments on: Enthusiastic for Everything http://henrysthreads.com/2007/07/enthusiastic-for-everything/ Thoughts on Religion in the World from a passionate, moderate, liberal charismatic Christian Tue, 15 May 2012 14:29:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Henry Neufeld http://henrysthreads.com/2007/07/enthusiastic-for-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-56049 Henry Neufeld Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:55:15 +0000 http://www.energionpubs.com/wordpress/?p=836#comment-56049 Adrian, Well, I don't recognize "this oppressive misogynist" that I'm making you out to be either. I'm recognizing a complementarian, which I do not equate to being a misogynist. I actually know of a church congregation, not more than five miles from my home, which <em>is</em> misogynistic, so I do recognize one can get to that point, but I absolutely don't see you that way. I do, however, see restrictions on leadership positions based on gender as being less than worthy of the incarnation. Do I expect everyone to get on board with me? No. Do I hope that we can work together where we agree? Absolutely. If you were ever in our part of the woods--a long ways, I know--I would hope that you would be able to join in worship in our church, and I would like to hope that if I were on your side of the pond, that I could join in worship in yours. But I'm not going to back off where I think any of us are missing out, any more than I expect you to back off on penal substitution. Adrian,

Well, I don’t recognize “this oppressive misogynist” that I’m making you out to be either. I’m recognizing a complementarian, which I do not equate to being a misogynist. I actually know of a church congregation, not more than five miles from my home, which is misogynistic, so I do recognize one can get to that point, but I absolutely don’t see you that way.

I do, however, see restrictions on leadership positions based on gender as being less than worthy of the incarnation. Do I expect everyone to get on board with me? No. Do I hope that we can work together where we agree? Absolutely. If you were ever in our part of the woods–a long ways, I know–I would hope that you would be able to join in worship in our church, and I would like to hope that if I were on your side of the pond, that I could join in worship in yours.

But I’m not going to back off where I think any of us are missing out, any more than I expect you to back off on penal substitution.

]]> By: Speaker of Truth » I want it all too! http://henrysthreads.com/2007/07/enthusiastic-for-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-56035 Speaker of Truth » I want it all too! Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:51:55 +0000 http://www.energionpubs.com/wordpress/?p=836#comment-56035 [...] Adrian for implicitly restricting this by gender and sexuality. On the same basis I agree with Henry Neufeld on this. To be fair to Adrian, I don’t think he disagrees, for he wasn’t writing about [...] [...] Adrian for implicitly restricting this by gender and sexuality. On the same basis I agree with Henry Neufeld on this. To be fair to Adrian, I don’t think he disagrees, for he wasn’t writing about [...]

]]> By: Adrian Warnock http://henrysthreads.com/2007/07/enthusiastic-for-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-55997 Adrian Warnock Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:08:40 +0000 http://www.energionpubs.com/wordpress/?p=836#comment-55997 As I said over at Daves place, I want it all for everybody too. I am not an elder myself, do I feel left out and not important? NO. The ladies in our church I speak to feel fulfilled and are serving God in ways consistent with however they are called by God. They can minister, they can lead, they can speak to the church. I simply do not recognize this oppressive misogynist you are making me out to be! As I said over at Daves place, I want it all for everybody too. I am not an elder myself, do I feel left out and not important? NO. The ladies in our church I speak to feel fulfilled and are serving God in ways consistent with however they are called by God. They can minister, they can lead, they can speak to the church. I simply do not recognize this oppressive misogynist you are making me out to be!

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