Comments on: Expressing the Multifaceted Nature of the Atonement http://henrysthreads.com/2007/06/expressing-the-multifaceted-nature-of-the-atonement/ Thoughts on Religion in the World from a passionate, moderate, liberal charismatic Christian Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:57:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Henry Neufeld http://henrysthreads.com/2007/06/expressing-the-multifaceted-nature-of-the-atonement/comment-page-1/#comment-50875 Henry Neufeld Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:16:17 +0000 http://www.energionpubs.com/wordpress/?p=779#comment-50875 I can see the discomfort with a group of people who want to exclude you. But based on what you have said there are no grounds to complain about the big tent. I have seen people complain about being excluded simply because people refused to give them the whole tent! In my experience there's very broad support for the statement that Jesus "died for our sins." Once you get very specific about just how that works, there is much less agreement. That is as it should be. Your post that I linked above makes that point very well. I can see the discomfort with a group of people who want to exclude you. But based on what you have said there are no grounds to complain about the big tent. I have seen people complain about being excluded simply because people refused to give them the whole tent!

In my experience there’s very broad support for the statement that Jesus “died for our sins.” Once you get very specific about just how that works, there is much less agreement. That is as it should be. Your post that I linked above makes that point very well.

]]> By: Peter Kirk http://henrysthreads.com/2007/06/expressing-the-multifaceted-nature-of-the-atonement/comment-page-1/#comment-50874 Peter Kirk Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:57:03 +0000 http://www.energionpubs.com/wordpress/?p=779#comment-50874 Henry, thanks for the link. From my perspective, no one wants to exclude advocates of PSA from the big tent, but we feel decidedly uncomfortable about this minority claiming the entire tent for themselves and throwing around all sorts of hints (well at least Adrian does) that the rest of us should be excluded, complete with accusations of blasphemy (from John Piper across the pond, but <a href="http://www.adrian.warnock.info/2006/12/interview-wayne-grudem-part-six-did.htm" rel="nofollow">repeated by Adrian</a>). We are happy to accept them, but we expect some acceptance in return. But, the question I am asking myself is, is there in fact a groundswell of opinion that some of us who are less passionate about PSA should be excluded, or is it just coming from Adrian, with a few cheers in his comments? Henry, thanks for the link. From my perspective, no one wants to exclude advocates of PSA from the big tent, but we feel decidedly uncomfortable about this minority claiming the entire tent for themselves and throwing around all sorts of hints (well at least Adrian does) that the rest of us should be excluded, complete with accusations of blasphemy (from John Piper across the pond, but repeated by Adrian). We are happy to accept them, but we expect some acceptance in return.

But, the question I am asking myself is, is there in fact a groundswell of opinion that some of us who are less passionate about PSA should be excluded, or is it just coming from Adrian, with a few cheers in his comments?

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