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		<title>By: definitions of various &#34;types&#34; of christians &#171; Gen-X Missional Wesleyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>definitions of various &#34;types&#34; of christians &#171; Gen-X Missional Wesleyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the Methoblogosphere, we have tried to define what we mean by &#8220;evangelical&#8221; and why we might not be rightly considered &#8220;evangelical.&#8221; As I&#8217;ve thought about the conversation (thanks to Jason and Henry, by the way, for their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the Methoblogosphere, we have tried to define what we mean by &#8220;evangelical&#8221; and why we might not be rightly considered &#8220;evangelical.&#8221; As I&#8217;ve thought about the conversation (thanks to Jason and Henry, by the way, for their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Am I an Evangelical?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Am I an Evangelical?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] answered this question before, but it was brought back to me over this past weekend when someone who knows me well enough to know [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] answered this question before, but it was brought back to me over this past weekend when someone who knows me well enough to know [...]</p>
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		<title>By: big breasts</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/12/and-im-not/comment-page-1/#comment-65615</link>
		<dc:creator>big breasts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;big breasts...&lt;/strong&gt;

big breasts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>big breasts&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>big breasts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Christianity vs Paulianity</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/12/and-im-not/comment-page-1/#comment-13517</link>
		<dc:creator>Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Christianity vs Paulianity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I commented on the type of view of scripture that seems to lead to this previously, and in my recent post on deciding who is saved I note that one of the problems I see with current evangelical views on atonement, and particularly on putting penal substitutionary atonement front and center, is that it puts the material out of order. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I commented on the type of view of scripture that seems to lead to this previously, and in my recent post on deciding who is saved I note that one of the problems I see with current evangelical views on atonement, and particularly on putting penal substitutionary atonement front and center, is that it puts the material out of order. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: j2</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/12/and-im-not/comment-page-1/#comment-13148</link>
		<dc:creator>j2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A short 2 points about labels: If one actually uses a dictionary definition of the attribute assigned as a label things become much less confusing as most labels are simply misapplied. The other note is that the labels liberal and conservative are almost exclusively used from a secular perspective yet applied in a religious perspective. In a sense I believe such people need to either recommit to their faith or leave it for a life of pure politics. Doing so would allow them to see more clearly the boundaries of each and what attributes, rather than labels, really mean in each.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A short 2 points about labels: If one actually uses a dictionary definition of the attribute assigned as a label things become much less confusing as most labels are simply misapplied. The other note is that the labels liberal and conservative are almost exclusively used from a secular perspective yet applied in a religious perspective. In a sense I believe such people need to either recommit to their faith or leave it for a life of pure politics. Doing so would allow them to see more clearly the boundaries of each and what attributes, rather than labels, really mean in each.</p>
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		<title>By: jason woolever</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason woolever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Henry. Thanks for your thoughtful response to my working definition of what &quot;an evangelical&quot; is. Its good to have the conversation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Henry. Thanks for your thoughtful response to my working definition of what &#8220;an evangelical&#8221; is. Its good to have the conversation!</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Neufeld</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/12/and-im-not/comment-page-1/#comment-12964</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 13:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not usually very tense about labels, but I hate creating expectations in others that will certainly be disappointed.  But labels also tend to drift.  I would really like to see a survey to confirm or deny this, but it seems to me that the term evangelical is drifting toward the left, which has given rise to terms like &quot;conservative evangelical.&quot;  Since I&#039;m to the left of &quot;conservative evangelical&quot; and my perception of &quot;evangelical&quot; includes &quot;conservative&quot; I avoid the label.

Added to that, I read a definition of evangelical just yesterday (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eauk.org/about/basis-of-faith.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Evangelical Alliance Basis of Faith&lt;/a&gt; HT: &lt;a href=&quot;http://42.blogs.warnock.me.uk/2006/12/starting_to_und.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;42&lt;/a&gt;)
with which I can substantially agree.

Labels are confusing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not usually very tense about labels, but I hate creating expectations in others that will certainly be disappointed.  But labels also tend to drift.  I would really like to see a survey to confirm or deny this, but it seems to me that the term evangelical is drifting toward the left, which has given rise to terms like &#8220;conservative evangelical.&#8221;  Since I&#8217;m to the left of &#8220;conservative evangelical&#8221; and my perception of &#8220;evangelical&#8221; includes &#8220;conservative&#8221; I avoid the label.</p>
<p>Added to that, I read a definition of evangelical just yesterday (<a href="http://www.eauk.org/about/basis-of-faith.cfm" rel="nofollow">Evangelical Alliance Basis of Faith</a> HT: <a href="http://42.blogs.warnock.me.uk/2006/12/starting_to_und.html" rel="nofollow">42</a>)<br />
with which I can substantially agree.</p>
<p>Labels are confusing!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin LaBar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin LaBar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 11:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is certainly food for thought. Thanks for posting it. I call myself an evangelical, but haven&#039;t thought about what that means as carefully as I should have. This post will certainly help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is certainly food for thought. Thanks for posting it. I call myself an evangelical, but haven&#8217;t thought about what that means as carefully as I should have. This post will certainly help.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Neufeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 03:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
No. Perhaps the Vicodin is slowing me down, but I</description>
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No. Perhaps the Vicodin is slowing me down, but I</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Most Annoying Theologian I&#8217;ve Never Read</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/12/and-im-not/comment-page-1/#comment-12894</link>
		<dc:creator>Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Most Annoying Theologian I&#8217;ve Never Read</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Later today I will be posting on salvation and particularly on the question of who will be saved and whether we can know. I&#8217;m also going to respond to one point in the third part of Adrian&#8217;s interview with Wayne Grudem, [update] which I have now posted here. Three recent posts of mine are also relevant, The Danger of Unchanging Truth, And I&#8217;m not . . . , and Truth, Pluralism, and Absolutism. None of these respond directly to Adrian Warnock (not to be confused with Dave) and Wayne Grudem, but they do relate.  Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Later today I will be posting on salvation and particularly on the question of who will be saved and whether we can know. I&#8217;m also going to respond to one point in the third part of Adrian&#8217;s interview with Wayne Grudem, [update] which I have now posted here. Three recent posts of mine are also relevant, The Danger of Unchanging Truth, And I&#8217;m not . . . , and Truth, Pluralism, and Absolutism. None of these respond directly to Adrian Warnock (not to be confused with Dave) and Wayne Grudem, but they do relate.  Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</p>
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