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		<title>By: Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Ten Beliefs of (some) Progressive Christians</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/06/unity-diversity-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-128631</link>
		<dc:creator>Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Ten Beliefs of (some) Progressive Christians</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have written about this before in posts on Unity, Diversity, and Confusion, and Exclusion, Inclusion, and Vague [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Setting Doctrinal Priorities</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/06/unity-diversity-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-84305</link>
		<dc:creator>Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Setting Doctrinal Priorities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] any aspect of truth. I discuss this kind of an approach to doctrinal unity and diversity in a post Unity, Diversity, and Confusion, where I recommend having a defined core that gives a group community, but allowing a broad range [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] any aspect of truth. I discuss this kind of an approach to doctrinal unity and diversity in a post Unity, Diversity, and Confusion, where I recommend having a defined core that gives a group community, but allowing a broad range [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Exclusion and Inclusion and Vague Boundaries</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/06/unity-diversity-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-51074</link>
		<dc:creator>Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Exclusion and Inclusion and Vague Boundaries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we can accept openly. This is essentially what I was advocating in my post from June 2, 2006 Unity, Diversity, and Confusion. Sometimes we&#8217;re so afraid of setting explicit boundaries that we allow vague boundaries to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we can accept openly. This is essentially what I was advocating in my post from June 2, 2006 Unity, Diversity, and Confusion. Sometimes we&#8217;re so afraid of setting explicit boundaries that we allow vague boundaries to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Excessively Large Tent = Crash</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/06/unity-diversity-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-50442</link>
		<dc:creator>Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Excessively Large Tent = Crash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have written a few times before on the need for a core of essential beliefs that provide a basis for community along with a broader set of non-essentials on which people can agree. Probably my most comprehensive discussion of the issue is in Unity, Diversity, and Confusion. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have written a few times before on the need for a core of essential beliefs that provide a basis for community along with a broader set of non-essentials on which people can agree. Probably my most comprehensive discussion of the issue is in Unity, Diversity, and Confusion. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pacesetters Bible School Newsletter &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Christian Reconciliation Carnival #3</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/06/unity-diversity-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-33792</link>
		<dc:creator>Pacesetters Bible School Newsletter &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Christian Reconciliation Carnival #3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] submissions on this topic. These are nearly a year old, but I think they are relevant. The first is Unity, Diversity, and Confusion, in which I discuss the problem of failing to define what is essential so that your doctrine kind [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] submissions on this topic. These are nearly a year old, but I think they are relevant. The first is Unity, Diversity, and Confusion, in which I discuss the problem of failing to define what is essential so that your doctrine kind [...]</p>
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		<title>By: the-methotaku</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/06/unity-diversity-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-5229</link>
		<dc:creator>the-methotaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for referring back to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for referring back to me!</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Neufeld</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/06/unity-diversity-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-2318</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Truth is never relative, however. Just because we choose to accept and not accept certain things does not make them true or not true.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I am 100% in agreement here.  In fact, I think that a unity based on pretending that everything is equally true, or suppressing our actual views, is not good for community, which will ultimately fail when done that way, but is also very bad for the search for truth.

When we agree on what is essential, we are simply finding a consensus on which we can agree.  Other elements should be vigorously debated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett said:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Truth is never relative, however. Just because we choose to accept and not accept certain things does not make them true or not true.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I am 100% in agreement here.  In fact, I think that a unity based on pretending that everything is equally true, or suppressing our actual views, is not good for community, which will ultimately fail when done that way, but is also very bad for the search for truth.</p>
<p>When we agree on what is essential, we are simply finding a consensus on which we can agree.  Other elements should be vigorously debated.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most of what you said.  Truth is never relative, however.  Just because we choose to accept and not accept certain things does not make them true or not true.  If we can ever agree on what is essential, that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that everything that is non essential is irrelevant.  I believe in vigorous debate, even among truths we may not necessarily divide over.  The truth is out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most of what you said.  Truth is never relative, however.  Just because we choose to accept and not accept certain things does not make them true or not true.  If we can ever agree on what is essential, that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that everything that is non essential is irrelevant.  I believe in vigorous debate, even among truths we may not necessarily divide over.  The truth is out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Neufeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your correction is correct.  I goofed.  It should read #1 and #3.  <img src='http://henrysthreads.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Richard H said:</p>
<blockquote><p>
This sounds like a good strategy to me. Our difficulty is that for some what is essential is INCLUSION (being INCUSIVE), which excludes EXCLUSIVENESS. As long as we’re afraid of self-definition, we will, as you suggest, continue to lack community.
</p></blockquote>
<p>By definition when we create a community that includes less than all of humanity we exclude some and include some.  Inclusion can&#8217;t be an absolute.  I favor inclusiveness, by which I mean that I would work toward  the maximum inclusiveness consistent with community.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard H</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2006/06/unity-diversity-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-2244</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestign discussion.</p>
<p>You say: &#8220;It is my prayer for the United Methodist church that we’ll reduce confusion by defining what it is that we find essential and learning to live with it.&#8221;</p>
<p>This sounds like a good strategy to me. Our difficulty is that for some what is essential is INCLUSION (being INCUSIVE), which excludes EXCLUSIVENESS. As long as we&#8217;re afraid of self-definition, we will, as you suggest, continue to lack community. </p>
<p>At least in my experience, the minimal self-definition we tend to chose tends not to be DOCTRINAL but ecclesial-organizational: Connectionalism, The Appointment System, Apportionments, Infant Baptism. When we do hit doctrinal issues, we often do it from a negative point of view &#8211; saying what we&#8217;re not (and here in Texas we might not knwo what United Methodism stands for, but were SURE we&#8217;re NOT baptists!).</p>
<p>NOTE: I think in your second graphic you mean to say that the Doctrinally Focused are impatient with #1 &amp; #3 &#8211; NOT #2 (themselves).</p>
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